Goodbye YJ, Hello TJ!

Just picked up an '02 Wrangler Sport with 36,000 miles on it... traded in my
95 Wrangler Rio Grande with 150,000 miles on it. It was a very reliable
vehicle for many years but the time came to upgrade.

First of all I'm loving the new Jeep. Some real nice refinments compared to
the 95 that I drove for 7 years.
This post does have a purpose though...
Where the hell is the switch to turn on the auxilary driving lamps that Jeep
mounts on the bumper? Are they wired into the high beam circuit? The dealer
I bought it from never sold a Jeep before and were clueless. That's their
loss.

I will always own a Jeep because I love the versatility and overall fun of
drive the Wrangler.
I'm sure more questions will follow.

Thanks in advance for any help you may provide.

John, Jeepin' since 1990.
02 Wrangler Sport
4.0 L - 5 Speed
Soft Top - Hard Doors (Now I'm really spoiled cause the windows don't Zip
anymore.)
On Order - Installations brackets for my ham radio rig and 5/8 wave 2 meter
antenna from http://www.arizonarockyroad.com/pages/1/index.htm

mine are wired into the high beam. Easy for you to test that though - just
jump outside :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"jgrobert" > wrote in message
news:NnbIe.5582$b91.984@trndny06...
> Just picked up an '02 Wrangler Sport with 36,000 miles on it... traded in
my
> 95 Wrangler Rio Grande with 150,000 miles on it. It was a very reliable
> vehicle for many years but the time came to upgrade.
>
> First of all I'm loving the new Jeep. Some real nice refinments compared
to
> the 95 that I drove for 7 years.
> This post does have a purpose though...
> Where the hell is the switch to turn on the auxilary driving lamps that
Jeep
> mounts on the bumper? Are they wired into the high beam circuit? The
dealer
> I bought it from never sold a Jeep before and were clueless. That's their
> loss.
>
> I will always own a Jeep because I love the versatility and overall fun of
> drive the Wrangler.
> I'm sure more questions will follow.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you may provide.
>
> John, Jeepin' since 1990.
> 02 Wrangler Sport
> 4.0 L - 5 Speed
> Soft Top - Hard Doors (Now I'm really spoiled cause the windows don't Zip
> anymore.)
> On Order - Installations brackets for my ham radio rig and 5/8 wave 2
meter
> antenna from http://www.arizonarockyroad.com/pages/1/index.htm
>
>

The switch is on the very end of the of the headlight switch. When you turn
on the headl lights pull the end toward the drivers door it is magic.

--
Coasty

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"jgrobert" > wrote in message
news:NnbIe.5582$b91.984@trndny06...
> Just picked up an '02 Wrangler Sport with 36,000 miles on it... traded in
> my 95 Wrangler Rio Grande with 150,000 miles on it. It was a very reliable
> vehicle for many years but the time came to upgrade.
>
> First of all I'm loving the new Jeep. Some real nice refinments compared
> to the 95 that I drove for 7 years.
> This post does have a purpose though...
> Where the hell is the switch to turn on the auxilary driving lamps that
> Jeep mounts on the bumper? Are they wired into the high beam circuit? The
> dealer I bought it from never sold a Jeep before and were clueless. That's
> their loss.
>
> I will always own a Jeep because I love the versatility and overall fun of
> drive the Wrangler.
> I'm sure more questions will follow.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you may provide.
>
> John, Jeepin' since 1990.
> 02 Wrangler Sport
> 4.0 L - 5 Speed
> Soft Top - Hard Doors (Now I'm really spoiled cause the windows don't Zip
> anymore.)
> On Order - Installations brackets for my ham radio rig and 5/8 wave 2
> meter antenna from http://www.arizonarockyroad.com/pages/1/index.htm
>

Found it, Thanks. I was looking all over the place for a rocker switch, what
the hell.

"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
...
> The switch is on the very end of the of the headlight switch. When you
> turn on the headl lights pull the end toward the drivers door it is magic.
>
> --
> Coasty

.... and when you turn on the high beams your aux lights turn off, just so
you know that. DC has decided in their wisdom that one cannot have both of
these on at the same time (sheesh).

There is a fix for this problem however if you wish to be illuminated both
up and down and see everything better. I attach an old post from Bill that
I saved that discusses how to fix this below.
Also here is a link that someone else posted some time ago that discusses
this:
<<http://www.getahelmet.com/tech/fogrelay.htm>> Note that this says pin #2
where Bill says pin #1. Hmmm. I have not done this yet so I am not sure
which is right so pick your answer from these.
Hope this helps,
Tomes

"jgrobert" > wrote in message
news:cWdIe.6005$%a2.6001@trndny03...
> Found it, Thanks. I was looking all over the place for a rocker switch,
what
> the hell.
>

INSERTED OLD POST:
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jay,
> It's still the fog lamp relay inside the main power distribution
> fuse box, which is on the passenger side of the engine under the hood.
> The relay is clearly marked on a diagram on the inside cover of the main
> fuse box. Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully
> and slowly bend the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side
> of the plastic relay, so it will not make contact with it's female
> socket when the relay is re-inserted.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/

Tomes did pass the time by typing:
> ... and when you turn on the high beams your aux lights turn off, just so
> you know that. DC has decided in their wisdom that one cannot have both of
> these on at the same time (sheesh).

Actually in most US States (all if I'm not mistaken) it's the regs
on vehicle lighting.

(not that anyone actually enforces it)

--
DougW

I thought it was any 4 lights on at any given time??? am I wrong??? anyone?
I was always curious about this, because it drives me NUTS that my 2001 Ford
supercrew does the same thing.........turns the driving lights off when the
high beams come one........
Robb

DougW wrote:
>Tomes did pass the time by typing:
>> ... and when you turn on the high beams your aux lights turn off, just so
>> you know that. DC has decided in their wisdom that one cannot have both of
>> these on at the same time (sheesh).
>
>Actually in most US States (all if I'm not mistaken) it's the regs
>on vehicle lighting.
>
>(not that anyone actually enforces it)
>


--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

I'm in Washington state by the way......
Robb


Robb S wrote:
>I thought it was any 4 lights on at any given time??? am I wrong??? anyone?
>I was always curious about this, because it drives me NUTS that my 2001 Ford
>supercrew does the same thing.........turns the driving lights off when the
>high beams come one........
>Robb
>
>>Tomes did pass the time by typing:
>>> ... and when you turn on the high beams your aux lights turn off, just so
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>>(not that anyone actually enforces it)


--
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200508/1

Turn off what are supposed to fog lights with highs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> I thought it was any 4 lights on at any given time??? am I wrong??? anyone?
> I was always curious about this, because it drives me NUTS that my 2001 Ford
> supercrew does the same thing.........turns the driving lights off when the
> high beams come one........
> Robb

Ya gotta be careful with that wiring. Cops do safety blitzes and they
check lights.... If you have certain lights stock, they better work
stock or you better have a 'good' reason.

Stock you have 'fog' lights. By regulation these are supposed to turn
off with the high beams.

If you convert to 'driving' lights, they are supposed to turn off with
the low beams. If your driving lights are pushing 100W or larger, they
need covers for street use because they are off road only lights.

Nothing looks stupider than these fools that drive around on clear days
or nights with fog lights on or the total idiots that put driving light
bulbs in them and drive around with the low beams and these two spot
lights on.

My old roommate got nailed for having 'driving' lights turned on with
his low beams while driving up Yonge St. in Toronto. Yes, he was one of
those idiots that liked them on. He believed me it was a no no after
that.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Tomes wrote:
>
> ... and when you turn on the high beams your aux lights turn off, just so
> you know that. DC has decided in their wisdom that one cannot have both of
> these on at the same time (sheesh).
>
> There is a fix for this problem however if you wish to be illuminated both
> up and down and see everything better. I attach an old post from Bill that
> I saved that discusses how to fix this below.
> Also here is a link that someone else posted some time ago that discusses
> this:
> <<http://www.getahelmet.com/tech/fogrelay.htm>> Note that this says pin #2
> where Bill says pin #1. Hmmm. I have not done this yet so I am not sure
> which is right so pick your answer from these.
> Hope this helps,
> Tomes
>
> "jgrobert" > wrote in message
> news:cWdIe.6005$%a2.6001@trndny03...
> > Found it, Thanks. I was looking all over the place for a rocker switch,
> what
> > the hell.
> >
>
> INSERTED OLD POST:
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Jay,
> > It's still the fog lamp relay inside the main power distribution
> > fuse box, which is on the passenger side of the engine under the hood.
> > The relay is clearly marked on a diagram on the inside cover of the main
> > fuse box. Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully
> > and slowly bend the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side
> > of the plastic relay, so it will not make contact with it's female
> > socket when the relay is re-inserted.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/