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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2...jcibjcghfh.prt Soldier claims his crime spree intended to avoid tour in Iraq By the Associated Press - 07/18/2006 BILLINGS (AP) A member of the Wyoming Army National Guard who was arrested in early June after a highway chase near Hardin told investigators he went on a five-day crime spree in Montana and Wyoming to avoid deployment to Iraq. Daniel J. Uptain, 21, of Casper, Wyo., was charged Monday with stealing a $35,000 Hummer H-2 from a Billings dealership and a 1965 Mustang valued at $15,000 from a Lockwood residence, along with two counts of felony burglary and one charge of misdemeanor theft. District Judge Gregory Todd ordered him held on $50,000 bail, to run concurrently with a $50,000 bail set in Big Horn County on a felony theft charge there. Uptain told Todd Monday that he wanted to plead guilty to the two counts of felony theft and other charges because of my strong religious beliefs and I know exactly what Ive done. Todd refused to accept the guilty pleas, but said he would consider his request to plead guilty next week if Uptain still chooses to do so. (snip) |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE > wrote: > http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2...jcibjcghfh.prt > > > Soldier claims his crime spree intended to avoid tour in Iraq > > By the Associated Press - 07/18/2006 > BILLINGS (AP) A member of the Wyoming Army National Guard who was > arrested in early June after a highway chase near Hardin told > investigators he went on a five-day crime spree in Montana and Wyoming > to avoid deployment to Iraq. This guy is a world-class idiot. First off, anyone who volunteers to serve in the National Guard in any state in this day and age is a fool. If that guy wanted to evade military service, all he had to do is tell his superior officer that he is gay and he wants to make passionate love to President Bush! If he had done that, he would have been bounced out of the military quickly, quietly, and without going to jail! |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
Shawn Hirn wrote: <brevity snip/crossposts adjusted>
> This guy is a world-class idiot. First off, anyone who volunteers to > serve in the National Guard in any state in this day and age is a fool. > If that guy wanted to evade military service, all he had to do is tell > his superior officer that he is gay and he wants to make passionate love > to President Bush! If he had done that, he would have been bounced out > of the military quickly, quietly, and without going to jail! First of all, he didn't want to avoid serving in the military, he just wanted to avoid combat zones. Unfortunately for him, that has been the feeling of most soldiers since the dawn of war and probably many who may sit at his courts martial. Obviously you've never served in the military. One cannot lie their way out of their obligation once they've sworn the "Oath of enlistment". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment ART. 107. FALSE STATEMENTS Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to deceive, signs any false record, return, regulation, order, or other official document, knowing it to be false, or makes any other false official statement knowing it to be false, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. http://www.army.mil/references/UCMJ1.html ART. 84. UNLAWFUL ENLISTMENT, APPOINTMENT, OR SEPARATION Any person subject to this chapter who effects an enlistment or appointment in or a separation from the armed forces of any person who is known to him to be ineligible for that enlistment, appointment, or separation because it is prohibited by law, regulation, or order shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. ART. 92. FAILURE TO OBEY ORDER OR REGULATION Any person subject to this chapter who-- (1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation; (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court. http://tinyurl.com/q4wep Military law is more different than similar to civilian law and every man should be subject to it during a period of their lives. ----- - gpsman |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
gpsman wrote: > > ART. 92. FAILURE TO OBEY ORDER OR REGULATION > Any person subject to this chapter who-- > (1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation; > (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of > the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the > order; or > (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties; > shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. > The key word there is "lawful". A soldier can make a strong argument that this war is unlawful and he can thus refuse to serve in it. THINK |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:13:36 -0700, "Billzz"
> wrote: > >It is very sad, for me, to read stories about people shirking >responsibility. You mean like George Bush who lied us into holocaust in iraq?? When will he be stop shirking responsiblilty and resign and turn himself in for war crimes.??? |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
Billzz wrote: <brevity snip>
> "gpsman" wrote: > > Military law is more different than similar to civilian law and every > > man should be subject to it during a period of their lives. > > Very well stated, and very well researched. Thank you, Sir. > > I served from private to colonel, and when I told my wife I had orders to > Vietnam, she went into labor, and some six weeks later we (including our > new-born son)were on an airplane from Germany to the states. I went to > Vietnam, saw my son in Hawaii, after six months, for R&R, for his first > haircut, then back to the Mekong Delta. We did not *want* that. But we > knew that eventually the call would come. And there was no question, in > either of our minds that, I would *not* go. Whether it was a *good* war or > a *bad* war was not even in our thinking. We got off the airplane in time > to hear President Johnson decline to run, and we knew what that meant, but > there was no question that I would not go. <heels locked:salute> Thank you, Sir. <salute presumed returned:about face:exit> ----- - gpsman |
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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" > wrote in message
... > You mean like George Bush who lied us into holocaust in iraq?? When > will he be stop shirking responsiblilty and resign and turn himself in > for war crimes.??? Probably the very second someone makes a forceful argument to him that that's what he should do. For instance, if you were to scale the White House fence, sit on the grass outside the Oval Office, douse yourself with lighter fluid and set yourself ablaze, George would probably look out the window and say, "You know, it's time I stop shirking responsiblilty and resign and turn myself in for war crimes." Karl === "No more blood for Freemason oil!" |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
Loco laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, proud graduate of the South
Hampton Institute of Technology, said in rec.autos.driving: > You mean like George Bush who lied us into holocaust in iraq?? Similar to how you lie about being a law-abiding citizen. > When will he be stop shirking responsiblilty and resign and > turn himself in for war crimes.??? When are you going to turn yourself in for the crimes of speeding, RLR, driving an unsafe vehicle and CPD; and that doesn't even touch on the crimes againast nature that make up the sack of **** that is you. -- -- "> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit? Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5 years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch could be 25, i thought." Pride of America (c.k.a. "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMOCIDE), 10/3/2002 Message-ID: > http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg Connecting POA to LBMHB/lbVH: See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
On 18 Jul 2006 23:11:00 -0700, "gpsman" >
wrote: >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: <crosspost adjusted> >> gpsman wrote: >> > >> > ART. 92. FAILURE TO OBEY ORDER OR REGULATION >> > Any person subject to this chapter who-- >> > (1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation; >> > (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of >> > the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the >> > order; or >> > (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties; >> > shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. >> > >> >> The key word there is "lawful". A soldier can make a strong argument >> that this war is unlawful and he can thus refuse to serve in it. THINK > >Duh. It doesn't matter if the war is lawful or not. If the US >military is in it, and you are a member of the military, your >obligation is to follow lawful orders and not to debate the lawfulness >of the military action. That's considered more than a tad beyond the >scope of duties of a Specialist 4th Class... and will not fly. > I'm just quoting you. If the war is unlawful then any orders given to a soldier fighting in the war are unlawful and don't have to be obeyed. THINK |
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SOLDIER STEALS CARS TO AVOID IRAQ
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote: > On 18 Jul 2006 23:11:00 -0700, "gpsman" > > wrote: > > >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: <crosspost adjusted> > >> gpsman wrote: > >> > > >> > ART. 92. FAILURE TO OBEY ORDER OR REGULATION > >> > Any person subject to this chapter who-- > >> > (1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation; > >> > (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of > >> > the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the > >> > order; or > >> > (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties; > >> > shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. > >> > > >> > >> The key word there is "lawful". A soldier can make a strong argument > >> that this war is unlawful and he can thus refuse to serve in it. THINK > > > >Duh. It doesn't matter if the war is lawful or not. If the US > >military is in it, and you are a member of the military, your > >obligation is to follow lawful orders and not to debate the lawfulness > >of the military action. That's considered more than a tad beyond the > >scope of duties of a Specialist 4th Class... and will not fly. > > > > I'm just quoting you. If the war is unlawful then any orders given to > a soldier fighting in the war are unlawful and don't have to be > obeyed. THINK Let's follow your apparent path of logic a bit further. By that argument then anyone who has been a part of the armed services since the end of the Korean War is an accomplice to high crimes. Millions of crooks on the streets of the US. Wars are for politicians. Therefore, impeach all current government officials and imprison all former government officials for treason. Oh, by the way, all Americans by law, pay taxes. A good chunk of our tax money goes to "defense" and makes all Americans accomplices to treason. 300 million crooks. I just hope I don't end up in the same cell block as you. |
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