Killed another engine mount....

Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....

My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.

I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.

Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.

I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!

I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
or 6 years.

Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
breaking it....

:-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something for
your CJ that might not break?
n.

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
>
> My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
> engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
>
> I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
> off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
>
> Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
> and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
>
> I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
>
> I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
> or 6 years.
>
> Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
> breaking it....
>
> :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Yeah they do.

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/catal.../bombproof.htm

But strengthen your motor mounts and what breaks next? Hopefully a u-joint.


"Nathan Otis" > wrote in message
...
> These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something
> for your CJ that might not break?
> n.
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
>>
>> My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
>> engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
>>
>> I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
>> off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
>>
>> Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
>> and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
>>
>> I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
>>
>> I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
>> or 6 years.
>>
>> Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
>> breaking it....
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>

Just thinking aloud he I wonder if there might not be a useful "fuse"
effect at work here. If Mike finds stronger motor mounts and installs
them the next weakest link will break when he beats on his Jeep. The
next weakest link might not be so friendly.


Nathan Otis wrote:
> These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something for
> your CJ that might not break?
> n.
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
>>
>>My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
>>engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
>>
>>I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
>>off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
>>
>>Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
>>and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
>>
>>I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
>>
>>I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
>>or 6 years.
>>
>>Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
>>breaking it....
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>

That is one reason I haven't considered a solid mount. As it is I am
tearing my frame to shreds and having a mount that won't give or flex is
a good way to break something really expensive. A mount every couple
years isn't too bad.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Just thinking aloud he I wonder if there might not be a useful "fuse"
> effect at work here. If Mike finds stronger motor mounts and installs
> them the next weakest link will break when he beats on his Jeep. The
> next weakest link might not be so friendly.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> > These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something for
> > your CJ that might not break?
> > n.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
> >>
> >>My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
> >>engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
> >>
> >>I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
> >>off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
> >>
> >>Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
> >>and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
> >>
> >>I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
> >>
> >>I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
> >>or 6 years.
> >>
> >>Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
> >>breaking it....
> >>
> >>:-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >

Didn't old-timey stock car builders install chain restraints on motor
mounts? Or am I making that part up?



Mike Romain wrote:
> That is one reason I haven't considered a solid mount. As it is I am
> tearing my frame to shreds and having a mount that won't give or flex is
> a good way to break something really expensive. A mount every couple
> years isn't too bad.
>
> Mike
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>>Just thinking aloud he I wonder if there might not be a useful "fuse"
>>effect at work here. If Mike finds stronger motor mounts and installs
>>them the next weakest link will break when he beats on his Jeep. The
>>next weakest link might not be so friendly.
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something for
>>>your CJ that might not break?
>>>n.
>>>
>>>"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
>>>>
>>>>My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
>>>>engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
>>>>
>>>>I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
>>>>off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
>>>>
>>>>Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
>>>>and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
>>>>
>>>>I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
>>>>
>>>>I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
>>>>or 6 years.
>>>>
>>>>Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
>>>>breaking it....
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>
>>>

Nope, you are remembering right. Mine has a safety bar across the
bottom as well as over stress latches on the mounts so if the rubber
tears, the engine can't lift out or fall out. Now with a shattered
mount like this last one, that bottom bar could be useful....

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Didn't old-timey stock car builders install chain restraints on motor
> mounts? Or am I making that part up?
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > That is one reason I haven't considered a solid mount. As it is I am
> > tearing my frame to shreds and having a mount that won't give or flex is
> > a good way to break something really expensive. A mount every couple
> > years isn't too bad.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >>Just thinking aloud he I wonder if there might not be a useful "fuse"
> >>effect at work here. If Mike finds stronger motor mounts and installs
> >>them the next weakest link will break when he beats on his Jeep. The
> >>next weakest link might not be so friendly.
> >>
> >>Nathan Otis wrote:
> >>
> >>>These are stock mounts, yes? Does M.O.R.E. or anyone else make something for
> >>>your CJ that might not break?
> >>>n.
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Damn, but it is hard to bitch about having too much traction....
> >>>>
> >>>>My 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't spin, so they put amazing stresses on my
> >>>>engine mounts, wheel locking hubs and u-joints.
> >>>>
> >>>>I blew a hub earlier this spring and just found two new bolts snapped
> >>>>off in it so I have to pull it and try to get the stubs out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Then the muffler shop was crying about a bad engine mount so I looked
> >>>>and sure enough I had just shattered the sucker.
> >>>>
> >>>>I didn't tear the metal off the rubber pad, I shattered the metal!
> >>>>
> >>>>I have lost count, but I think that is the 4th or 5th blown mount over 5
> >>>>or 6 years.
> >>>>
> >>>>Oh well, 'you play you pay' as they say and we sure had/have fun
> >>>>breaking it....
> >>>>
> >>>>:-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike
> >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

Hi Lee,
All motor mounts from the early seventies on are made to
interlocked so they still hold the engine from flopping over. Forties
years ago we would regularly hear of a car starting off in reverse and
because the engine with a broken left mount would flop to the right
under torque jamming the throttle wide open, sending the old Buick
dynaflow at sixty miles an hour in reverse. Last one I remember went
straight through a motel.
http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/motormount/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Didn't old-timey stock car builders install chain restraints on motor
> mounts? Or am I making that part up?