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Old September 22nd 04, 11:50 PM
john s
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Default 1.8T Oil issue -- cost

Mobil 1 0W-40 is on the list along with many other oils in the $4 quart
range.
http://www.audiusa.com/common/images..._Oil_Chart.pdf
Notice this chart is made specifically for 1.8T engines.

"Libby" > wrote in message
om...
> The notices were sent in early August. FYI -- Mobil 1 0W-40 does not
> meet the new requirements. It meets VW505.00, not the new 505.01
> requirements.
>



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Old September 23rd 04, 03:03 PM
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> Mobil 1 0W-40 is on the list along with many other oils in the $4 quart
> range.
> http://www.audiusa.com/common/images..._Oil_Chart.pdf
> Notice this chart is made specifically for 1.8T engines.


I saw this in another forum, and I found it useful in deciphering all the
oil gibberish:

Volkswagen Group Oil Specifications and their Applications

VW 500.00
This is an “old” oil specification and is applicable to engines built before
model year 2000 (up to August 1999)
Viscosity ratings: SAE 5w-40, 10w-40 or 20w-40
This oil can be used in all petrol and some diesel engines, apart from those
referred to under other specifications.

VW 501.01
This is another “old” oil specification with exactly the same application as
VW 500.00.
Viscosity ratings: SAE 10w-40, 15w-40 or 20w-40

VW 502.00
This oil can only be used in petrol engines and is recommended for those
which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines
with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other
specifications.
Viscosity ratings: SAE 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

VW 503.00
This is a relatively new oil specification for petrol engines with variable
service intervals. It includes the AUDI S4, but not the RS4, or the TT and
S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

VW 503.01
A new oil specification specifically for the RS4, and the TT and S3 with
outputs of more than 180bhp, Passat W8 and Phaeton W12.
Viscosity rating: 0w-30

VW 505.00
For all diesel engines prior to model year 2000 (August 1999)
Viscosity rating: 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

VW 505.01
For all diesel engines with unit injectors (Pumpe-Duse or PD) without
variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 5w-40

VW 506.00
For all diesel engines except those with unit injectors, with variable
service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

VW 506.01
For all diesel engines, including those with unit injectors, with variable
service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30


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Old September 23rd 04, 03:14 PM
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In message m>
"Brian Running" > wrote:

> VW 505.01
> For all diesel engines with unit injectors (Pumpe-Duse or PD) without
> variable service intervals.
> Viscosity rating: SAE 5w-40


Interestingly, this is the oil specified for the RS6 - definitely not a
diesel engine!

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Old October 19th 04, 11:09 PM
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JB³ wrote:
>
> "Ron" > wrote in message
> news
> > (Libby) wrote:
> >> The cheapest approved oil is $12.75 per quart.

> > --snip--
> >>The notices were sent in early August. FYI -- Mobil 1 0W-40 does not
> >>meet the new requirements. It meets VW505.00, not the new 505.01
> >>requirements.

> >
> > I think you're overpaying. I get Motul VW 505.01 spec
> > oil via mail order for $7.25 a quart, and that includes
> > shipping.. Check out
> >
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/ to see. I'm sure
> > there are others with similar prices out there, too.
> >
> > --
> > Ron
> > (user ron
> > in domain spamblocked.com)

>
> Wow, I am looking at an '05 Passat TDI and surprised to see this - The
> Automotive Oil Change Association has filed a complaint with the U.S.
> Federal Trade Commission accusing Volkswagen of prescribing its own brand of
> motor oil in violation of rules against tie-in sales provisions.
>
> http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=4;t=000293;p=


What do Europeans use in VW TDI's? Is VW's 505.01 spec widely available
from various manufacturers, or does VW specify something different in
Europe where there are a lot more TDI's than in North America?
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Old October 19th 04, 11:21 PM
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"Ron" > wrote in message
news
> (Libby) wrote:
>> The cheapest approved oil is $12.75 per quart.

> --snip--
>>The notices were sent in early August. FYI -- Mobil 1 0W-40 does not
>>meet the new requirements. It meets VW505.00, not the new 505.01
>>requirements.

>
> I think you're overpaying. I get Motul VW 505.01 spec
> oil via mail order for $7.25 a quart, and that includes
> shipping.. Check out
>
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/ to see. I'm sure
> there are others with similar prices out there, too.
>
> --
> Ron
> (user ron
> in domain spamblocked.com)


Wow, I am looking at an '05 Passat TDI and surprised to see this - The
Automotive Oil Change Association has filed a complaint with the U.S.
Federal Trade Commission accusing Volkswagen of prescribing its own brand of
motor oil in violation of rules against tie-in sales provisions.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=4;t=000293;p=


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Old January 19th 05, 07:15 AM
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Paul wrote:
> "Rex B" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 02:25:19 GMT, "DriversWantedTech"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>||The 1.8T in Passats have a factory oil capacity of 3.9 quarts - all

>
> other
>
>>||1.8Ts have a capacity of 4.8 quarts - that amount is enough to assist

>
> with
>
>>||lubrication and heat dissipation. It's VERY rare to see a non-Passat

>
> 1.8
>
>>||with "turbo turds" lining the oil pan.
>>
>>I think I'd be looking for a way to improve that - Oil cooler at least.
>>What's a "Turbo Turd"?
>>
>>Texas Parts Guy

>
>
> LOL - A "Turbo Turd" is a small particle of carbon that originates in the
> turbocharger lube chamber - when the turbo stops, i.e., shutting the HOT
> engine off, a little bit of the oil in the turbo "cooks" and turns into a
> hard particle. When the engine is started, these particles wash out of the
> turbo through the return tube and end up in the pan. Passats are notorious
> for getting these into the oil pickup tube and starving the engine of oil.
> BUT... the ones I've worked on have been neglected - one of them had 19,000
> miles between oil changes. The "oil" in the pan was like tar - you couldn't
> even pour it out until it was warm. Routine oil changes, ON SCHEDULE,
> should greatly reduce the risk of this.


of course another way to keep the turbo from coking up on you is to let
the turbo cool down after it has been spooled up. I forget which company
makes these for japanese cars with turbos (mostly Mazdas), but you can
get a turbo timer that keeps the engine running at idle for a
programmable amount of time to help the turbo cool off so the oil
wouldn't coke up.

when I worked as an assistant manager at an import car garage working on
mazdas, this guy came in needing to replace the second turbo in his
wife's car. we recommended a turbo timer, and we cleaned out the oil
feed tube coming off the top of the turbo - all the heat from the turbo
ran straight up the tube and cooked the oil in the tube - it was very
clogged when we took it off.
 




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