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AJL wrote:
> SMS > wrote: > >> Actually in my area there was a big to-do about the dealers wanting to >> hire those type of people for oil changes to avoid paying the journeyman >> union mechanics their normal rate. The mechanics went on strike, and the >> dealers capitulated. > > Unions have been doing that sort of thing for years. Imagine, full > mechanics wages for an oil changer. Too bad. As the dealers are > currently going broke I wonder if they'll go on strike for better > unemployment wages... They're not going broke because they're paying qualified mechanics to perform service. They're going broke because people aren't buying new cars. People aren't buying new cars because they're worried about their jobs and because credit is tight. People are worried about their jobs and credit is tight because of W and his cohorts. |
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SMS > wrote:
>They're not going broke because they're paying qualified mechanics to >perform service. I will agree that the wasteful practice of paying mechanics wages to someone to change oil (because of union tactics) by itself will not cause the dealer to go broke. But it and similar practices will certainly put him at a competitive disadvantage. >They're going broke because people aren't buying new cars. True. But which dealer is better able to better withstand the current financial storm, a dealer required to pay mechanics wages to an oil changer or a dealer that is allowed to run his store in a financially responsible manner? >People aren't buying new cars because they're worried about their >jobs and because credit is tight. That and the earlier gas crunch that made people want cars that Detroit didn't have to sell. |
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Thus spake SMS > :
>"http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html" > >Despite Honda (and other automakers) issuing warnings against engine >flushes and fuel system cleaning (and refusing warranty work on engines >damaged by these procedures), Some Jiffy Lubes continue to hard sell the >"wallet flush," claiming that the manufacturer _requires_ these procedures. > >Now to be fair, it isn't just these places that perform what Click and >Clack used to call "the Bilstein Wallet Flush." I had a Toyota service >department in San Jose (Piercey Toyota) try to push the engine flush on >me (a sure sign to never return to this dealer for service, or sales for >that matter). My wife got her oil changed today at one. They wanted to give her an "injector cleaning". She purchased her Camry in Jan 2007 and it has about 24K on it. They also told her she needs a new air filter. |
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"Dillon Pyron" > wrote in message ... > Thus spake SMS > : > >>"http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html" >> >>Despite Honda (and other automakers) issuing warnings against engine >>flushes and fuel system cleaning (and refusing warranty work on engines >>damaged by these procedures), Some Jiffy Lubes continue to hard sell the >>"wallet flush," claiming that the manufacturer _requires_ these >>procedures. >> >>Now to be fair, it isn't just these places that perform what Click and >>Clack used to call "the Bilstein Wallet Flush." I had a Toyota service >>department in San Jose (Piercey Toyota) try to push the engine flush on >>me (a sure sign to never return to this dealer for service, or sales for >>that matter). > > My wife got her oil changed today at one. They wanted to give her an > "injector cleaning". She purchased her Camry in Jan 2007 and it has > about 24K on it. They also told her she needs a new air filter. She _could_ need a new air filter, but probably not. I once took car I had just bought to Big O Tires for an oil change. They came back to me with a list of nearly $5000 in repairs that were needed, and the car had 30-ish thousand miles and was just over two years old. I never had the "necessary" work done, and I've never been back to big O Tires. I've had the car for going on 14 years now. |
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"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message ... > > "Dillon Pyron" > wrote in message > ... >> Thus spake SMS > : >> >>>"http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html" >>> >>>Despite Honda (and other automakers) issuing warnings against engine >>>flushes and fuel system cleaning (and refusing warranty work on engines >>>damaged by these procedures), Some Jiffy Lubes continue to hard sell the >>>"wallet flush," claiming that the manufacturer _requires_ these >>>procedures. >>> >>>Now to be fair, it isn't just these places that perform what Click and >>>Clack used to call "the Bilstein Wallet Flush." I had a Toyota service >>>department in San Jose (Piercey Toyota) try to push the engine flush on >>>me (a sure sign to never return to this dealer for service, or sales for >>>that matter). >> >> My wife got her oil changed today at one. They wanted to give her an >> "injector cleaning". She purchased her Camry in Jan 2007 and it has >> about 24K on it. They also told her she needs a new air filter. > > > > She _could_ need a new air filter, but probably not. > > I once took car I had just bought to Big O Tires for an oil change. They > came back to me with a list of nearly $5000 in repairs that were needed, > and the car had 30-ish thousand miles and was just over two years old. I > never had the "necessary" work done, and I've never been back to big O > Tires. I've had the car for going on 14 years now. > > There is a chain here in So Cal called Express Tire. I used to take them up on their oil change special. I finally just got tired of getting the bull**** laundry list of things my truck "needed" every time I got that oil change. I am sure they helped drain wallets left and right. On the last set of tires I bought from them (and the last time I set foot in one of their places) they decided to be cute and put the old valve stems back on. I noticed old brake dust and dirt on my fingers when I went to double check the air pressures the next day. I drove back down there and had them replace the valve stems. The manager apologized for the "mix-up." Instead of the small profit for selling me back my own valve stems, they had to eat the labor for remounting and installing my tires all over again. |
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On Nov 13, 4:14*pm, "sanity" > wrote:
> > And what do you do with the waste oil and the used filter? I take it back to autozone and dump it into their used oil tank. The filter I just chunk in the garbage. Drained of course.. I've never had anyone change my oil. Ever. As far as cars go, the Corolla is very easy as I don't even have to jack it up. I can reach everything from the front of the car. I let mine drain quite a while also. I'll pull the plug and go watch TV or something for a while. The longer it can drain, the more dirt comes out. Course, it may be a fairly minute difference once you get down to a drip, but I'm usually in no big rush. |
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If you believe W was really in control shouldn't you be thanking him for the
$2 gas we have today? LOL "SMS" > wrote in message ... > AJL wrote: >> SMS > wrote: >> >>> Actually in my area there was a big to-do about the dealers wanting to >>> hire those type of people for oil changes to avoid paying the journeyman >>> union mechanics their normal rate. The mechanics went on strike, and the >>> dealers capitulated. >> >> Unions have been doing that sort of thing for years. Imagine, full >> mechanics wages for an oil changer. Too bad. As the dealers are >> currently going broke I wonder if they'll go on strike for better >> unemployment wages... > > They're not going broke because they're paying qualified mechanics to > perform service. They're going broke because people aren't buying new > cars. People aren't buying new cars because they're worried about their > jobs and because credit is tight. People are worried about their jobs and > credit is tight because of W and his cohorts. |
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