OEM Online Honda Parts Sites

jim beam wrote:

>
> in other words, you're arguing against yourself. well done.

You really need to do something about your reading comprehension.

"Ignorance can be cured but stupidity is forever." You appear to be
either terminal or a troll.

"Inigo Lopez de Loyola" <i@hs> wrote
> If you buy online from a supplier who does not have a
> "business nexus" in your state, they can't collect sales
> tax from you any you're not "obliged" to pay it

One is legally required to report it on one's state's taxes
and pay sales tax on it. Poster "Say What" is correct. Check
state tax instructions yourself.

The enforceability of these state sales tax laws is another
matter.

You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may then
understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.


"jim beam" > wrote in message
...
> Elle wrote:
>> My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>> online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems to
>> have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>> have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>> online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>> parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from me
>> selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>> Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>> charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>> with online purchases.
>
> no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
> your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
> purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
> your state and save the tax.

This thread gets my vote for most anal retentive of the year. Quick show of
hands - Who among the readers here has ever voluntarily sent their state a
sales tax payment for an out of state internet purchase?


On 12/26/07 6:21 PM, in article
, "Woody" >
wrote:

> You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may then
> understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.
>
>
> "jim beam" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Elle wrote:
>>> My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>>> online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems to
>>> have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>>> have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>>> online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>>> parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from me
>>> selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>>> Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>> charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>> with online purchases.
>>
>> no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
>> your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
>> purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
>> your state and save the tax.
>
>

You'll find it happens quite frequently after an audit...



E Meyer wrote:
> This thread gets my vote for most anal retentive of the year. Quick show of
> hands - Who among the readers here has ever voluntarily sent their state a
> sales tax payment for an out of state internet purchase?
>
>
> On 12/26/07 6:21 PM, in article
> , "Woody" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may then
>>understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.
>>
>>
>>"jim beam" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Elle wrote:
>>>
>>>>My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>>>>online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems to
>>>>have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>>>>have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>>>>online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>>>>parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from me
>>>>selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>>>>Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>>>charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>>>with online purchases.
>>>
>>>no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
>>>your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
>>>purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
>>>your state and save the tax.

Say What? wrote:
> Inigo Lopez de Loyola wrote:
>
>> "Elle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>> charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>> with online purchases.
>>
>>
>> If you buy online from a supplier who does not have a "business nexus"
>> in your state, they can't collect sales tax from you any you're not
>> "obliged" to pay it
>
>
> Bzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer! At least it is in all the states where I
> have a passing knowledge of their revenue act and that's a couple dozen.
>


Bzzzzt! Really Wrong Answer!!!

If they, (the vendor), has no physical presence in your state and the
order is via the internet, NO TAX OF ANY KIND CAN BE COLLECTED.

So called "use tax" tactics DO NOT APPLY to internet sales.

(One of the very few good things our conggress critters accomplished)

JT

jim beam wrote:

> Say What? wrote:
>
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> Say What? wrote:
>>>
>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Say What? wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> state for use in your home state but didn't pay any taxes. See
>>>>>> what they say about that. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to
>>>>>> send you the appropriate reporting form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> not for online transactions - the supremes nixed that.
>>>>> http://www.cbpp.org/12-13-99tax.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim, please re-READ what you have quoted. It's pretty clear but you
>>>> do have to read and understand what their ruling was. I stand by my
>>>> original post.
>>>>
>>>> Quote from your link, above:
>>>>
>>>> Who Will Remit Sales Taxes on Internet and Mail-Order Sales?
>>>>
>>>> The vitality of the sales tax as a critical state and local
>>>> government revenue source has been eroded in recent years by the
>>>> rapid growth in mail-order and Internet sales. Sales taxes are due
>>>> on mail-order and Internet purchases just as they are on purchases
>>>> in stores.(1) But a large majority of the sales taxes due on
>>>> mail-order and Internet purchases made by individual consumers and a
>>>> significant share of the taxes due on purchases made by businesses
>>>> are effectively uncollectible. States and localities are unable to
>>>> collect these taxes because the Supreme Court has prohibited states
>>>> from requiring mail-order and Internet merchants to charge the
>>>> customer for the tax and remit it to the customer's state unless the
>>>> merchant has a physical presence or "nexus" within the state's
>>>> borders. This means that although an Internet merchant like
>>>> Amazon.com presumably has customers in every or nearly every state,
>>>> it can only be required to collect sales tax from customers in its
>>>> home state of Washington and a handful of other states in which it
>>>> has built warehouses or stationed personnel.
>>>>
>>>> If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require
>>>> customers of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and
>>>> local sales tax directly to their home states. However, compliance
>>>> with this self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the
>>>> case of individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses
>>>> that make purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote"
>>>> sellers. The combination of weak tax compliance by purchasers and a
>>>> sharply limited tax collection obligation on the part of remote
>>>> sellers is eroding the sales tax base of state and local governments
>>>>
>>>
>>> what part of:
>>> "...because the Supreme Court has prohibited states from requiring
>>> mail-order and Internet merchants to charge the customer for the tax
>>> and remit it to the customer's state unless the merchant has a
>>> physical presence or "nexus" within the state's borders" is unclear?
>>
>>
>> I saw it but kept on reading which, apparently, you did not.
>>
>> What part of...
>>
>> "Sales taxes are due on mail-order and Internet purchases just as they
>> are on purchases in stores."
>>
>> and
>>
>> "If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require
>> customers of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and
>> local sales tax directly to their home states. However, compliance
>> with this self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the
>> case of individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses
>> that make purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote"
>> sellers.." is unclear to you?
>>
>> Remember, if you will, that the OP said that he had no obligation to
>> pay the tax himself. He is obliged to pay it. As you have pointed
>> out, the merchant selling to him is NOT required to collect it unless
>> they have a physical presence or nexus in his state. The synopsis of
>> the USSC decision also points out that the tax which is due is
>> "effectively uncollectable," I said as much in my post.
>
>
> in other words, you're arguing against yourself. well done.


Well, actually you both are... It is legislation that was passed that
prohibits any form of internet taxes except when a vendor has a physical
presence in the affected state...

But the short of it is, generally no tax..

JT

Yeah, right... I'm going to volunteer my internet purchases to an auditor
who has absolutely no way to find them any other way. Get real!


On 12/26/07 7:31 PM, in article
, "News" >
wrote:

> You'll find it happens quite frequently after an audit...
>
>
>
> E Meyer wrote:
>> This thread gets my vote for most anal retentive of the year. Quick show of
>> hands - Who among the readers here has ever voluntarily sent their state a
>> sales tax payment for an out of state internet purchase?
>>
>>
>> On 12/26/07 6:21 PM, in article
>> , "Woody" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may then
>>> understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> "jim beam" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Elle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>>>>> online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems to
>>>>> have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>>>>> have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>>>>> online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>>>>> parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from me
>>>>> selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>>>>> Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>>>> charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>>>> with online purchases.
>>>>
>>>> no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
>>>> your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
>>>> purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
>>>> your state and save the tax.

If you think so... Give it a try.

Presumably, you'll be able to make up receipts showing tax paid...



E Meyer wrote:
> Yeah, right... I'm going to volunteer my internet purchases to an auditor
> who has absolutely no way to find them any other way. Get real!
>
>
> On 12/26/07 7:31 PM, in article
> , "News" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>You'll find it happens quite frequently after an audit...
>>
>>
>>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>>
>>>This thread gets my vote for most anal retentive of the year. Quick show of
>>>hands - Who among the readers here has ever voluntarily sent their state a
>>>sales tax payment for an out of state internet purchase?
>>>
>>>
>>>On 12/26/07 6:21 PM, in article
t, "Woody" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may then
>>>>understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"jim beam" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Elle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>>>>>>online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems to
>>>>>>have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>>>>>>have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>>>>>>online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>>>>>>parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from me
>>>>>>selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>>>>>>Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>>>>>charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>>>>>with online purchases.
>>>>>
>>>>>no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
>>>>>your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
>>>>>purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
>>>>>your state and save the tax.

And exactly who is going to be asking for these receipts?

I live in Texas, a state which has no state income tax. There is no
personal state tax filing, no forms, no affidavits, no audits. Sales taxes
are collected by businesses.

The Federal government has no incentive to care about this. If you live in a
state without an income tax, sales taxes are deductible, thereby possibly
reducing your federal income tax due.

Back to my original assertion -- This is the most anal retentive thread of
the year. I'm still waiting for that show of hands. Who here has sent
unsolicited sales tax payments for internet purchases to their state?


On 12/26/07 9:43 PM, in article
, "News" >
wrote:

> If you think so... Give it a try.
>
> Presumably, you'll be able to make up receipts showing tax paid...
>
>
>
> E Meyer wrote:
>> Yeah, right... I'm going to volunteer my internet purchases to an auditor
>> who has absolutely no way to find them any other way. Get real!
>>
>>
>> On 12/26/07 7:31 PM, in article
>> , "News" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You'll find it happens quite frequently after an audit...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> This thread gets my vote for most anal retentive of the year. Quick show
>>>> of
>>>> hands - Who among the readers here has ever voluntarily sent their state a
>>>> sales tax payment for an out of state internet purchase?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/26/07 6:21 PM, in article
>>>> , "Woody"
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You really need to take some classes in reading comprehension. You may
>>>>> then
>>>>> understand what you are reading and get some of the facts correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jim beam" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Elle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started checking OEM
>>>>>>> online Honda parts places that I have used in the past. Shipping seems
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have shot through the roof. From reports here and some other shopping, I
>>>>>>> have become vaguely aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts
>>>>>>> online at discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM Honda
>>>>>>> parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership five miles from
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> selling prices as competitive as I have seen at Majestic and San Leandro
>>>>>>> Honda (long-time online dealers), but of course without the shipping
>>>>>>> charge. I get to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even
>>>>>>> with online purchases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
>>>>>> your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into your
>>>>>> purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier outside
>>>>>> your state and save the tax.