Question about red light camera traffic ticket

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
>
>tell them to either dismiss the ticket or you will BOMB THE COURTHOUSE
>
>DEATH TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMMENT
>
>KILL A COP TODAY, KILL THEM ALL
>
>DEATH TO PIGS
>
>PROBLEM SOLVED

How well has that worked for you?


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On Aug 16, 3:05 pm, Deuteros > wrote:
> I got a ticket in the mail the other day. It was from a red light camera.
> My father-in-law was driving our van and crossed the stop line

Thus entering the intersection against a red.

> but didn't
> actually run the red light.

Wrong.

> Anyway, I planned on going to court and arguing our case. Even if it's
> obvious to the judge that the van didn't run the red light, will he still
> make me pay the fine because the van crossed the white line?

Very probably.

In article >, Deuteros > wrote:
>I got a ticket in the mail the other day. It was from a red light camera.
>My father-in-law was driving our van and crossed the stop line but didn't
>actually run the red light. The speed shown on the ticket was 13 MPH which
>is obviously too slow a speed to be running a red light.

In the last few years red light cameras have been programmed to
ticket people rolling over the stop line as well as people driving
through the intersection on red. The cameras make a lot more money
that way. Crossing the stop line on red is technically illegal.

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John Carr )

On Aug 21, 2:45 am, (John F. Carr) wrote:
> In article >, Deuteros > wrote:
> >I got a ticket in the mail the other day. It was from a red light camera.
> >My father-in-law was driving our van and crossed the stop line but didn't
> >actually run the red light. The speed shown on the ticket was 13 MPH which
> >is obviously too slow a speed to be running a red light.
>
> In the last few years red light cameras have been programmed to
> ticket people rolling over the stop line as well as people driving
> through the intersection on red. The cameras make a lot more money
> that way. Crossing the stop line on red is technically illegal.

Not only technically. Motorists who stop across the stop line force
pedestrians into the line of traffic in order to cross the street, or
to duck around between idling cars. These motorists deserve to be
cited. It's not because it's a revenue matter, IMO. It's a "learn to
drive correctly" matter.

On Aug 18, 3:51 pm, Paul Johnson > wrote:
> On Aug 16, 3:05 pm, Deuteros > wrote:
>
> > I got a ticket in the mail the other day. It was from a red light camera.
> > My father-in-law was driving our van and crossed the stop line
>
> Thus entering the intersection against a red.
>
> > but didn't
> > actually run the red light.
>
> Wrong.
>
> > Anyway, I planned on going to court and arguing our case. Even if it's
> > obvious to the judge that the van didn't run the red light, will he still
> > make me pay the fine because the van crossed the white line?
>
> Very probably.

It sounds like the OP was cited despite the fact a relative was
driving. RLCs are starting to be an outstanding argument against
loaning vehicles or letting anyone other than the owner drive. Who
knows how many times a car was stolen, only for the owner to get RLC
cited?

Still, I'd bet the OP gets fined rather than the relative, due to the
paper trail.

Scott in SoCal wrote:
> MLOM > said in misc.transport.road:
>
>> It sounds like the OP was cited despite the fact a relative was
>> driving.
>
> RLC tickets are sent to the registered owner by default. Usually the
> owner has the opportunity to tell the DMV who was actually driving in
> the case of a loan. HOWEVER! I read recently that if the driver does
> not respond to the ticket notice, then THE OWNER IS STILL ON THE HOOK
> FOR THE FINE!
>

Depends on the state. In OR, a vehicle owner is not required to
identify the driver when declaring innocence.

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--Andy

"Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> wrote in message
...
> SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
>>
>>tell them to either dismiss the ticket or you will BOMB THE COURTHOUSE
>>
>>DEATH TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMMENT
>>
>>KILL A COP TODAY, KILL THEM ALL
>>
>>DEATH TO PIGS
>>
>>PROBLEM SOLVED
>
> How well has that worked for you?


I'm still here, aren't I ?

pigs are SCARED of me. They know they better leave me the **** alone or they
will be shot and killed
DEATH TO PIGS, KILL THEM ALL, KILL A COP TODAY

DEATH TO COPS, EXECUTE THEM.

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> DEATH TO COPS, EXECUTE THEM.
>

You, sirrah, need to be exterminated.

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
>
>"Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> wrote in message
.. .
>> SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
>>>
>>>tell them to either dismiss the ticket or you will BOMB THE COURTHOUSE
>>>
>>>DEATH TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMMENT
>>>
>>>KILL A COP TODAY, KILL THEM ALL
>>>
>>>DEATH TO PIGS
>>>
>>>PROBLEM SOLVED
>>
>> How well has that worked for you?
>
>
>I'm still here, aren't I ?
>
>pigs are SCARED of me. They know they better leave me the **** alone or they
>will be shot and killed
>DEATH TO PIGS, KILL THEM ALL, KILL A COP TODAY
>
>DEATH TO COPS, EXECUTE THEM.
>
>
>

Okay then, we return you now to your regularly scheduled delusions,
already in progress.


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