Arco gas?

I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?

Ashton Crusher wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:45:27 -0700, wrote:
>
>>I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>>Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?
>
> I hate ARCO. Too many of them won't let you use a credit card without
> making a trip inside because they charge more for the gas if you
> charge it.

Call your credit card company and report them. This practice is
specifically against every credit card issuers policy that I have ever
read, and I have personally been witness to Mastercard removing a shop's
ability to accept their card because of violation of this rule.

The 2-3% that the shop pays in fees is part of the cost of doing business.
If a company cannot accept that cost, they shouldn't accept credit cards...

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On 2007-07-22, > wrote:
> I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
> Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?

It's fine.

Arco and Valero are the least expensive here in SoCal.

Of course, Arco doesn't accept credit, only ATM, debit, cash and Arco
fleet cards. That may contribute to the lower cost...

Valero does accept credit.

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On 2007-07-22, Ashton Crusher > wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:45:27 -0700, wrote:
>
>>I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>>Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?
>
> I hate ARCO. Too many of them won't let you use a credit card without
> making a trip inside because they charge more for the gas if you
> charge it.

None of the company-owned stations I know of do. Some dealers do, but
no one out here in the Inland Empire. The one at I-15 and Fourth Street
accepted credit cards on a trial basis but I'm told they had a lot of
problem with credit card fraud and went back to ATM/debit/cash only.

Ashton Crusher wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:45:27 -0700, wrote:
>
>>I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>>Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?

Gas is gas, unless part of it is water :-(

> I hate ARCO. Too many of them won't let you use a credit card without
> making a trip inside because they charge more for the gas if you
> charge it.

The ARCO stations here (SoCal) only let you use debit cards and charge a
quarter (maybe more) for the privilege. Better to find a station that takes
the CCs with a 5% rebate for gas, groceries and drugs.

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:48:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> wrote:

>In article >,
> The Real Bev > wrote:
>
>> >>I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>> >>Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?
>>
>> Gas is gas, unless part of it is water :-(
>
>Gas is gas, until the vendor adds its additive packages.

In years past, Arco was always the highest octane at the pump as
tested by Union Oil Company technicians in Yorba Linda, Calif. My
uncle was one of them. Their premium was typically close to 100
octane. Now, they are just a low-cost seller like a lot of other
stations. The problem I have with Arco and other stations with three
pumps instead of two is that they are usually 85-octane, 88-octane,
and 92 octane (at least in the West.) The 85-octane pump will be a
little lower priced than the 87-octane at two-pump stations, but most
cars requiring regular need at least 87-octane unless you live at
higher altitude. So you buy the 88-octane and pay 10-cents more. If
you choose the 85-octane to save the 10-cents your car's computer will
just adjust the timing to avoid detonation, and you get less power and
less mileage. It's really a marketing ploy to get more money out of
the customers. I avoid 3--pump stations like the plague.

Dick

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Dick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:48:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> The Real Bev > wrote:
>>
>>>>> I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>>>>> Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?
>>> Gas is gas, unless part of it is water :-(
>> Gas is gas, until the vendor adds its additive packages.
>
> In years past, Arco was always the highest octane at the pump as
> tested by Union Oil Company technicians in Yorba Linda, Calif. My
> uncle was one of them. Their premium was typically close to 100
> octane. Now, they are just a low-cost seller like a lot of other
> stations. The problem I have with Arco and other stations with three
> pumps instead of two is that they are usually 85-octane, 88-octane,
> and 92 octane (at least in the West.) The 85-octane pump will be a
> little lower priced than the 87-octane at two-pump stations, but most
> cars requiring regular need at least 87-octane unless you live at
> higher altitude. So you buy the 88-octane and pay 10-cents more. If
> you choose the 85-octane to save the 10-cents your car's computer will
> just adjust the timing to avoid detonation, and you get less power and
> less mileage. It's really a marketing ploy to get more money out of
> the customers. I avoid 3--pump stations like the plague.
>
> Dick
>

octane is not calorie content. it's calorie content that matters.

"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:45:27 -0700, wrote:
>
>>I noticed that Arco is the cheapest priced gas around.
>>Is there anything wrong with it or it bad for Honda engines?
>
> I hate ARCO. Too many of them won't let you use a credit card without
> making a trip inside because they charge more for the gas if you
> charge it.

This is strictly illegal in the state of Texas.. A provision of the state
Deceptive Trade Practices Act prohibits it, and fines and prison sentences
can result.

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote
>
> Here's what you do: run several tanks of Arco, and figure out how many
> cents per mile it costs to run.
>
> Then run several tanks of Shell and figure out how many cents per mile
> it costs to run.
>
> It's all about the fuel cost per mile, and not at all about the price
> per gallon at the pump.

Unless you drive the same trip all the time, I think it'll take way more
than a few tankfuls to average out the noise in that measurement. I went
through ten tankfuls of regular in my car, and ten of premium, and got
slightly better gas mileage with regular (about 1%), which I don't believe
for an instant, especially since the car feels slightly better running on
premium.

It might be possible to make this measurement if your car has an MPG meter,
and you do the same test run on a particular piece of road at a particular
speed, on windless days.

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> Gas is gas, until the vendor adds its additive packages.

Even then....