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Who Says Cars Aren't an Investment?
In article >, Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses are selling > for as much or more than new ones. One apparently sold for $31,000. > Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction them off on eBay > for a quick profit... This really is proof that math education in the USA is rather poor. |
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message ... > The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses are selling > for as much or more than new ones. One apparently sold for $31,000. > Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction them off on eBay > for a quick profit... > You can't buy a Prius for MSRP, though. Well, odds are a worse than a snowball's chance in hell. The graft of the dealership is anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 over MSRP. Prius has a demand and buzz that's even bigger than the PT Cruiser and the VW Beetle, relative to the supply. |
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In article >, Magnulus wrote:
> The graft of the dealership is anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 over MSRP. > Prius has a demand and buzz that's even bigger than the PT Cruiser and the > VW Beetle, relative to the supply. The joys of a perception based society..... |
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Magnulus wrote: > > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message > ... > > The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses are selling > > for as much or more than new ones. One apparently sold for $31,000. > > Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction them off on eBay > > for a quick profit... > > > > You can't buy a Prius for MSRP, though. Well, odds are a worse than a > snowball's chance in hell. > The graft of the dealership is anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 over MSRP. > Prius has a demand and buzz that's even bigger than the PT Cruiser and the > VW Beetle, relative to the supply. Really? A local dealer has run an add with a price below MSRP. I think dealers plant stories like this to con the weak willed. Ed |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:39:31 -0400, Magnulus wrote:
> > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message > ... >> The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses are selling >> for as much or more than new ones. One apparently sold for $31,000. >> Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction them off on eBay >> for a quick profit... >> > > You can't buy a Prius for MSRP, though. Well, odds are a worse than a > snowball's chance in hell. That's because people are stupid. Even at $5/gallon a Prius' total cost of ownership is much higher as the one of any comparable small economy car - and that's not counting costly repairs to the battery, which has a limited lifespan. > The graft of the dealership is anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 over MSRP. > Prius has a demand and buzz that's even bigger than the PT Cruiser and the > VW Beetle, relative to the supply. It's a fad. The people, who drive Priusses do so, because they want to look intellectual, not because they care for the environment. It's the Volvo of the new decade. Chris |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:36:17 -0500, Brent P , said the following in=20
rec.autos.driving...=20 > In article >,=20 > Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote: > > The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses > > are selling for as much or more than new ones. One=20 > > apparently sold for $31,000. > > Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction > > them off on eBay for a quick profit... >=20 > This really is proof that math education in the=20 > USA is rather poor.=20 That and the "must have it now," entitlement to the utmost in convienence= =20 that people are accustomed to these days that they are willing to pay=20 thousands over MSRP for a used car rather than wait a couple of months=20 for delivery of new one... |
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In article et>, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:36:17 -0500, Brent P , said the following in > rec.autos.driving... > >> In article >, >> Scott en Aztlán wrote: >> > The KTLA Morning News reports that *used* Toyota Priuses >> > are selling for as much or more than new ones. One >> > apparently sold for $31,000. >> > Maybe I'll buy a Prius or two for MSRP and auction >> > them off on eBay for a quick profit... >> >> This really is proof that math education in the >> USA is rather poor. > > That and the "must have it now," entitlement to the utmost in convienence > that people are accustomed to these days that they are willing to pay > thousands over MSRP for a used car rather than wait a couple of months > for delivery of new one... The thing is, besides the look-at-me-i'm-driving-a-hyrbid factor, I was refering to the cost analysis. They think they'll make it back on fuel savings, but unless gasoline hits $4-5 a gallon they would have been better off with a conventional gasoline powered car of similiar size with the best available fuel economy. |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:35:22 -0700, "C.H." >
wrote: >It's a fad. The people, who drive Priusses do so, because they want to >look intellectual, not because they care for the environment. It's the >Volvo of the new decade. Really? And you know this how? When I considered a hybrid, it certainly wasn't because I wanted to look "intellectual". Believe it or not, some people actually give a **** about the environment. |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:20:26 -0700, N E One wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:35:22 -0700, "C.H." > > wrote: > >>It's a fad. The people, who drive Priusses do so, because they want to >>look intellectual, not because they care for the environment. It's the >>Volvo of the new decade. > > > Really? Yes, really. > And you know this how? I see the same idiots that usually are driving very old Volvos strutting towards their new Priusses, maneuvering them ineptly out of their parking and driving off. > When I considered a hybrid, it certainly wasn't because I wanted to > look "intellectual". Believe it or not, some people actually give a > **** about the environment. So do I, which is why I don't junk my non-hybrid car and buy a hybrid vehicle that takes a lot of energy to produce and uses a lot of poisonous chemicals in its batteries, which have only a very limited lifespan, but rather accept a lower mileage. Even if my car was old, junking a perfectly good driver to replace it by a questionable hybrid is not an economic or environmental decision but a fad for misguided and uninformed people. Chris |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:30 -0700, "C.H." >
wrote: >On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:20:26 -0700, N E One wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:35:22 -0700, "C.H." > >> wrote: >> >>>It's a fad. The people, who drive Priusses do so, because they want to >>>look intellectual, not because they care for the environment. It's the >>>Volvo of the new decade. >> >> >> Really? > >Yes, really. > >> And you know this how? > >I see the same idiots that usually are driving very old Volvos strutting >towards their new Priusses, maneuvering them ineptly out of their parking >and driving off. And this includes every driver of every Prius or other hybrid you've ever seen? > >> When I considered a hybrid, it certainly wasn't because I wanted to >> look "intellectual". Believe it or not, some people actually give a >> **** about the environment. > >So do I, which is why I don't junk my non-hybrid car and buy a hybrid >vehicle that takes a lot of energy to produce and uses a lot of poisonous >chemicals in its batteries, which have only a very limited lifespan, but >rather accept a lower mileage. Forget your red herring about replacing a perfectly good car, since it's not safe to assume that people wouldn't be replacing their old POS as I was when I considered one. Quantify the environmental costs of producing these batteries vs. those of burning a whole lot more fossil fuels. Is it really more costly? No fair assuming the batteries will be disposed of improperly - assume they are disposed of properly. > >Even if my car was old, junking a perfectly good driver to replace it by a >questionable hybrid is not an economic or environmental decision but a fad >for misguided and uninformed people. > Prove it then. Show us that producing the battery for 1 hybrid car is going to be worse for the environment than all the extra fuel you would burn in a regular old gasoline engine. I'll be very surprised if you can. >Chris |
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