CobraJet's vs GT40Patrick's

The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ
hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude,
automotively, I think we're quite similar. So I started thinking about
what we have in common. I don't have a lot of time tonight to post, so
I'm only throwing out a few ideas.
But first, here's what we won't discuss in this thread: 12-second
muscle cars and how classics compare to late models. With that said,
let's find similiarities.

Over the years here are some things I think we both like or prefer:

Station wagons
Sleepers
Large displacement
Normally aspirated
Strippers
Tweaked, but factory appearing
Straight-line cars

CJ, so far so good? (Agree damn it... just say yes and nod your head.
Let's get out of the blocks and lay down the first 60-feet without
wheel-hopping or spining the tires.)

Can you think of anything else we disagree about? And what else do you
think we agree on?

Patrick
'93 Cobra

In article .com>,
> wrote:

> The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ
> hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude,
> automotively, I think we're quite similar. So I started thinking about
> what we have in common. I don't have a lot of time tonight to post, so
> I'm only throwing out a few ideas.
> But first, here's what we won't discuss in this thread: 12-second
> muscle cars and how classics compare to late models. With that said,
> let's find similiarities.
>
> Over the years here are some things I think we both like or prefer:
>
> Station wagons
> Sleepers
> Large displacement
> Normally aspirated
> Strippers
> Tweaked, but factory appearing
> Straight-line cars
>
> CJ, so far so good? (Agree damn it... just say yes and nod your head.
> Let's get out of the blocks and lay down the first 60-feet without
> wheel-hopping or spining the tires.)
>
> Can you think of anything else we disagree about? And what else do you
> think we agree on?

Did you see the news story John URL'd comparing mechanics to
technicians? This is the essential difference between you and me. I'm a
gearhead, you belong to the plug-and-play group. The attitude *you*
call "stuck in the past", is referred to as "nostalgia" by the vast
majority of car-minded 40+ year-olds. The fact that you name C&D as
your fave shows me you would never consider an all-out buildup of
anything yourself.

So it really goes back to the apples and oranges thing. You are
trying to find a common ground to ease things a bit; I say it really
doesn't matter. Why? Because I *own* several of every vehicle you have
in that list above, and you own a '93 Cobra. I get greasy; you pay lip
service. Apples and oranges.

Next week, if it doesn't rain anymore, I'll post pics of my Ranger's
engine to show you what I enjoy farting around with.


>
> Patrick
> '93 Cobra
>

--
CobraJet
Thunder Snake #1

"CobraJet" > wrote in message
...
> In article .com>,
> > wrote:
>
>> The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ
>> hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude,
>> automotively, I think we're quite similar. So I started thinking about
>> what we have in common. I don't have a lot of time tonight to post, so
>> I'm only throwing out a few ideas.
>> But first, here's what we won't discuss in this thread: 12-second
>> muscle cars and how classics compare to late models. With that said,
>> let's find similiarities.
>>
>> Over the years here are some things I think we both like or prefer:
>>
>> Station wagons
>> Sleepers
>> Large displacement
>> Normally aspirated
>> Strippers
>> Tweaked, but factory appearing
>> Straight-line cars
>>
>> CJ, so far so good? (Agree damn it... just say yes and nod your head.
>> Let's get out of the blocks and lay down the first 60-feet without
>> wheel-hopping or spining the tires.)
>>
>> Can you think of anything else we disagree about? And what else do you
>> think we agree on?
>
> Did you see the news story John URL'd comparing mechanics to
> technicians? This is the essential difference between you and me. I'm a
> gearhead, you belong to the plug-and-play group. The attitude *you*
> call "stuck in the past", is referred to as "nostalgia" by the vast
> majority of car-minded 40+ year-olds. The fact that you name C&D as
> your fave shows me you would never consider an all-out buildup of
> anything yourself.
>
> So it really goes back to the apples and oranges thing. You are
> trying to find a common ground to ease things a bit; I say it really
> doesn't matter. Why? Because I *own* several of every vehicle you have
> in that list above, and you own a '93 Cobra. I get greasy; you pay lip
> service. Apples and oranges.
>
> Next week, if it doesn't rain anymore, I'll post pics of my Ranger's
> engine to show you what I enjoy farting around with.

If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:

CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified
the t-shirts to fit better.

Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

--
John
ThunderSnake #59

John wrote:

> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:

> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> modified the t-shirts to fit better.

That's yet to be determined.

> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. Wanna
race?

Patrick
'93 Cobra

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> John wrote:
>
>> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
>
>> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
>> modified the t-shirts to fit better.
>
> That's yet to be determined.
>
>> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
>
> And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. Wanna
> race?

Sure, using my rules. The first one to puke wins!

--
John
ThunderSnake #59

John wrote:

> >> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

> > And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons.
> > Wanna race?

> Sure, using my rules. The first one to puke wins!

lol

I hope I'm not doing that after tomorrow's race. I'm doing 13.1. Last
year I made it in 1:48. This year I'm shooting for 1:30s. Not sure if
my old body will get me there, but we'll find out.

(Any runners in this NG?)

For those not in to running, or can't run, walking is a good
substitute. The main thing is just being active.

Patrick
'93 Cobra

John wrote:

> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
>
> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
modified
> the t-shirts to fit better.
>
> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, but
you've pretty much got that backwards.

180 Out

In article .com>,
> wrote:

> John wrote:
>
> > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
> >
> > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> modified
> > the t-shirts to fit better.
> >
> > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
>
> I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, but
> you've pretty much got that backwards.
>
> 180 Out
>

Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about
this stuff than I do?

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CobraJet
Thunder Snake #1

CobraJet wrote:

> wrote:
>
> > John wrote:
> >
> > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
> > >
> > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> > modified
> > > the t-shirts to fit better.
> > >
> > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
> >
> > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info,
but
> > you've pretty much got that backwards.
> >
> > 180 Out
> >
> Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about
> this stuff than I do?

No, what I wrote is that Patrick has a better claim to "been there done
that" than you do. Emphasis on the "doing," not the "knowing." I
don't know where the newbies are getting their info, but it doesn't
match what I've been reading in these groups the past four years.

180 Out

CobraJet wrote:

> > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:

> > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> > > modified the t-shirts to fit better.

> > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

> > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info,
> > but you've pretty much got that backwards.

> Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about
> this stuff than I do?

Do I know more than you about this stuff...? What I think is that you
have the reference manual from hell, that's what I think. Even with
out the manual, I wouldn't doubt you know more about the classic stuff
because you live there. Automotively, for you, the world stopped
somewhere around '73-'74. So you only need to know about 10 years
worth. Study that small amount of information long enough and you
_should_ know it upside down and backwards. Myself, on the other hand,
was just like you until the '82 GT Mustang made its debut. Then I
started gobbling up info on every subsequent model year of car since,
plus some foreign, so of course my knowledge on the details of the old
stuff is going to be foggy in comparision. Try stuffing about 33 years
of automotive info in your brain. And even the 70's stuff I like to
read about now, so the 33 years of info is up to nearly 40, and
growing.

But that's just talking about "knowing". Expirience is something else.
Am I claiming, or have I ever claimed to be, a mechanic? No. Am I
afraid to get my hands dirty? No. Here's my list of things I've done:

replaced starter
rebuilt/installed carbs
replaced water pumps
replaced rocker arms
replaced cam/bearings
installed U/D pullies
installed timing chain
installed headers, x & h pipes
installed rear gears
replaced alternator
installed clutch cables/quadrants
performed brake jobs - including drum
replaced rotors & calipers
installed shift kit
replaced valve cover gaskets
replaced/swapped intake manifolds
installed shocks
replaced radiators/hoses
repacked/replaced wheel bearings
replaced a computer
installed shifters
replaced fenders/doors/hoods
stripped paint
performed bodywork/paint prep
replaced/installed oak bed in pickup
replaced/installed throttle body/EGR/TPS sensor/mass-air meter & sensor
replaced clutch on an A/C compressor
all the tune-up junk (points, plugs, wires ect.) and various sensors

Things I haven't done, but would love to. Never pulled heads, got in
the bottom end, rebuilt a trans, and have never done a clutch job
(Never needed to. My LX's had more than a 100K on its original when I
sold the car, and my Cobra's has a 100K on it now and it still has
plenty of bite). I'd like to do these four tasks, but so far I haven't
needed to. But to be honest, I wouldn't do them right now because my
Cobra is my daily driver, that is unless I had a knowledgeable friend
looking over my shoulder.

So that's it for the "plug-n-play guy".

Your turn to step up to the plate, self-proclaimed, "Mr. Gearhead".

Patrick
'93 Cobra