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Old April 6th 06, 11:45 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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An interesting encounter was borne of a foolish mistake. Nonetheless,
Jeep owners should be proud of the result.

I went to check on Blue, my big truck. When we're down for the Winter,
she gets fired up every 3 days to get precious fluids, lubricants and
air where they should be so that she's ready to go as soon as work
begins again. When the engine oil temp hits 125 degrees, we grab gears
and get down the highway for about 10 minutes more, to be sure that the
entire drivetrain and trailer wheel bearings gets lubricated.

I jumped in this morning, turned the key and hit the starter button.
Nothing. A quick glance at the voltmeter confirmed my worst suspicion:
the batteries were completely dead. Another glance at the headlight
switch told me why. Awwwwww....CRAP!

Rather than call out the service tech and fork over $375.00 for a jump
start, I decide to use the TJL. Laugh if you must --I'm not made of
money.

I put out red triangles and pulled the Jeep up next to the battery box
and hook up the jumper cables. You see, Blue uses 4
industrial-strength batteries to fire up: we're talking four 1400-amp
batteries hooked in parallel with zero-guage wire running to the
starter. This is heavy-duty stuff here.

No sooner did I hook it up, a Z-71 owner comes to a stop next to me
asking if he can help. "No thanks Mister" I reply. "You'll never get
that truck started with that puny Jeep; you'll burn out the alternator
trying."

Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. Granted, we're talking a 90-amp
alternator here with what, 6-guage wiring? Not good. But without
flinching I replied, "I think it can do it, and I'll bet you $50 bucks
on it."

He laughed out loud. "I'll be inside --yell when you want me to use
the Chevy instead." He roars into an adjacent parking lot and
dissappears into the building.

Hmmm. We'll see about that!

I gave it 20 full minutes to charge. The voltmeter never rose above
12.5 volts. I kept checking on the Jeep's alternator --it was smoking
hot, as was the cabling on the backside. No visible smoke, but
absolutely searing to the touch.

Just as I was about to give it a try, he left the building and came
roaring up next to me once again. "Hey, are you ready to give up yet?"
he smirked.

I hit the starter button. And it fired up instantly...YES!!!!!

I looked back at him and smiled without saying a word. He began to
roll up his window, and I heard him mutter under his breath, "G-Damn
Jeep people...shee...". He quickly drove away in disgust.

Jeep: 1
Chebby: Zip.

Postscript: After I shut the Jeep down, a bit of smoke wafted up from
the alternator after all, but after cooling down, it's still working
just fine. I am impressed that the tiny alternator had enough guts to
charge 4 Semi batteries from a completely discharged state to the point
where it would fire up a Detriot Diesel in 20 minutes without catching
fire.

Yes, I'm very impressed indeed. I may upgrade the alternator someday,
but for now, it works just fine for me.

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  #2  
Old April 7th 06, 12:18 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Cool. Did you at least get yout 50 bucks?

Carl


"JD Adams" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> An interesting encounter was borne of a foolish mistake. Nonetheless,
> Jeep owners should be proud of the result.
>
> I went to check on Blue, my big truck. When we're down for the Winter,
> she gets fired up every 3 days to get precious fluids, lubricants and
> air where they should be so that she's ready to go as soon as work
> begins again. When the engine oil temp hits 125 degrees, we grab gears
> and get down the highway for about 10 minutes more, to be sure that the
> entire drivetrain and trailer wheel bearings gets lubricated.
>
> I jumped in this morning, turned the key and hit the starter button.
> Nothing. A quick glance at the voltmeter confirmed my worst suspicion:
> the batteries were completely dead. Another glance at the headlight
> switch told me why. Awwwwww....CRAP!
>
> Rather than call out the service tech and fork over $375.00 for a jump
> start, I decide to use the TJL. Laugh if you must --I'm not made of
> money.
>
> I put out red triangles and pulled the Jeep up next to the battery box
> and hook up the jumper cables. You see, Blue uses 4
> industrial-strength batteries to fire up: we're talking four 1400-amp
> batteries hooked in parallel with zero-guage wire running to the
> starter. This is heavy-duty stuff here.
>
> No sooner did I hook it up, a Z-71 owner comes to a stop next to me
> asking if he can help. "No thanks Mister" I reply. "You'll never get
> that truck started with that puny Jeep; you'll burn out the alternator
> trying."
>
> Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. Granted, we're talking a 90-amp
> alternator here with what, 6-guage wiring? Not good. But without
> flinching I replied, "I think it can do it, and I'll bet you $50 bucks
> on it."
>
> He laughed out loud. "I'll be inside --yell when you want me to use
> the Chevy instead." He roars into an adjacent parking lot and
> dissappears into the building.
>
> Hmmm. We'll see about that!
>
> I gave it 20 full minutes to charge. The voltmeter never rose above
> 12.5 volts. I kept checking on the Jeep's alternator --it was smoking
> hot, as was the cabling on the backside. No visible smoke, but
> absolutely searing to the touch.
>
> Just as I was about to give it a try, he left the building and came
> roaring up next to me once again. "Hey, are you ready to give up yet?"
> he smirked.
>
> I hit the starter button. And it fired up instantly...YES!!!!!
>
> I looked back at him and smiled without saying a word. He began to
> roll up his window, and I heard him mutter under his breath, "G-Damn
> Jeep people...shee...". He quickly drove away in disgust.
>
> Jeep: 1
> Chebby: Zip.
>
> Postscript: After I shut the Jeep down, a bit of smoke wafted up from
> the alternator after all, but after cooling down, it's still working
> just fine. I am impressed that the tiny alternator had enough guts to
> charge 4 Semi batteries from a completely discharged state to the point
> where it would fire up a Detriot Diesel in 20 minutes without catching
> fire.
>
> Yes, I'm very impressed indeed. I may upgrade the alternator someday,
> but for now, it works just fine for me.
>



  #3  
Old April 7th 06, 12:48 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Jeep 1, Chebby 0.

Wow, when my Western Star was dead back in the winter, it took my F350 and
two of the portable rechargeable starter packs and about 30 mins. to get it
started. Same battery setup as yours.

I'd guess you shortened the life expectancy of your alternator, though.

Spdloader




"JD Adams" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> An interesting encounter was borne of a foolish mistake. Nonetheless,
> Jeep owners should be proud of the result.
>
> I went to check on Blue, my big truck. When we're down for the Winter,
> she gets fired up every 3 days to get precious fluids, lubricants and
> air where they should be so that she's ready to go as soon as work
> begins again. When the engine oil temp hits 125 degrees, we grab gears
> and get down the highway for about 10 minutes more, to be sure that the
> entire drivetrain and trailer wheel bearings gets lubricated.
>
> I jumped in this morning, turned the key and hit the starter button.
> Nothing. A quick glance at the voltmeter confirmed my worst suspicion:
> the batteries were completely dead. Another glance at the headlight
> switch told me why. Awwwwww....CRAP!
>
> Rather than call out the service tech and fork over $375.00 for a jump
> start, I decide to use the TJL. Laugh if you must --I'm not made of
> money.
>
> I put out red triangles and pulled the Jeep up next to the battery box
> and hook up the jumper cables. You see, Blue uses 4
> industrial-strength batteries to fire up: we're talking four 1400-amp
> batteries hooked in parallel with zero-guage wire running to the
> starter. This is heavy-duty stuff here.
>
> No sooner did I hook it up, a Z-71 owner comes to a stop next to me
> asking if he can help. "No thanks Mister" I reply. "You'll never get
> that truck started with that puny Jeep; you'll burn out the alternator
> trying."
>
> Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. Granted, we're talking a 90-amp
> alternator here with what, 6-guage wiring? Not good. But without
> flinching I replied, "I think it can do it, and I'll bet you $50 bucks
> on it."
>
> He laughed out loud. "I'll be inside --yell when you want me to use
> the Chevy instead." He roars into an adjacent parking lot and
> dissappears into the building.
>
> Hmmm. We'll see about that!
>
> I gave it 20 full minutes to charge. The voltmeter never rose above
> 12.5 volts. I kept checking on the Jeep's alternator --it was smoking
> hot, as was the cabling on the backside. No visible smoke, but
> absolutely searing to the touch.
>
> Just as I was about to give it a try, he left the building and came
> roaring up next to me once again. "Hey, are you ready to give up yet?"
> he smirked.
>
> I hit the starter button. And it fired up instantly...YES!!!!!
>
> I looked back at him and smiled without saying a word. He began to
> roll up his window, and I heard him mutter under his breath, "G-Damn
> Jeep people...shee...". He quickly drove away in disgust.
>
> Jeep: 1
> Chebby: Zip.
>
> Postscript: After I shut the Jeep down, a bit of smoke wafted up from
> the alternator after all, but after cooling down, it's still working
> just fine. I am impressed that the tiny alternator had enough guts to
> charge 4 Semi batteries from a completely discharged state to the point
> where it would fire up a Detriot Diesel in 20 minutes without catching
> fire.
>
> Yes, I'm very impressed indeed. I may upgrade the alternator someday,
> but for now, it works just fine for me.
>



  #4  
Old April 7th 06, 02:01 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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So, did you get your fifty bucks?

Tom

"JD Adams" > wrote in message
oups.com...

>
> Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. Granted, we're talking a 90-amp
> alternator here with what, 6-guage wiring? Not good. But without
> flinching I replied, "I think it can do it, and I'll bet you $50 bucks
> on it."
>



  #5  
Old April 7th 06, 02:13 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Jeep 1, Chebby 0.

And the alternator in his tractor isn't that much bigger anyway.
Use the yard's electricity.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You should stop being such a drama queen and buy a trickle charger.
> Whenever I leave the lights on in one of my vehicles, and this happens more
> and more often with advancing age, I just pull out the hundred foot
> extension cord and the charger. It only takes a few hours, and it much
> easier on alternators and wiring.
>
> Earle

  #6  
Old April 7th 06, 02:16 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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You should stop being such a drama queen and buy a trickle charger.
Whenever I leave the lights on in one of my vehicles, and this happens more
and more often with advancing age, I just pull out the hundred foot
extension cord and the charger. It only takes a few hours, and it much
easier on alternators and wiring.

Earle

"JD Adams" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> An interesting encounter was borne of a foolish mistake. Nonetheless,
> Jeep owners should be proud of the result.
>
> I went to check on Blue, my big truck. When we're down for the Winter,
> she gets fired up every 3 days to get precious fluids, lubricants and
> air where they should be so that she's ready to go as soon as work
> begins again. When the engine oil temp hits 125 degrees, we grab gears
> and get down the highway for about 10 minutes more, to be sure that the
> entire drivetrain and trailer wheel bearings gets lubricated.
>
> I jumped in this morning, turned the key and hit the starter button.
> Nothing. A quick glance at the voltmeter confirmed my worst suspicion:
> the batteries were completely dead. Another glance at the headlight
> switch told me why. Awwwwww....CRAP!
>
> Rather than call out the service tech and fork over $375.00 for a jump
> start, I decide to use the TJL. Laugh if you must --I'm not made of
> money.
>
> I put out red triangles and pulled the Jeep up next to the battery box
> and hook up the jumper cables. You see, Blue uses 4
> industrial-strength batteries to fire up: we're talking four 1400-amp
> batteries hooked in parallel with zero-guage wire running to the
> starter. This is heavy-duty stuff here.
>
> No sooner did I hook it up, a Z-71 owner comes to a stop next to me
> asking if he can help. "No thanks Mister" I reply. "You'll never get
> that truck started with that puny Jeep; you'll burn out the alternator
> trying."
>
> Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. Granted, we're talking a 90-amp
> alternator here with what, 6-guage wiring? Not good. But without
> flinching I replied, "I think it can do it, and I'll bet you $50 bucks
> on it."
>
> He laughed out loud. "I'll be inside --yell when you want me to use
> the Chevy instead." He roars into an adjacent parking lot and
> dissappears into the building.
>
> Hmmm. We'll see about that!
>
> I gave it 20 full minutes to charge. The voltmeter never rose above
> 12.5 volts. I kept checking on the Jeep's alternator --it was smoking
> hot, as was the cabling on the backside. No visible smoke, but
> absolutely searing to the touch.
>
> Just as I was about to give it a try, he left the building and came
> roaring up next to me once again. "Hey, are you ready to give up yet?"
> he smirked.
>
> I hit the starter button. And it fired up instantly...YES!!!!!
>
> I looked back at him and smiled without saying a word. He began to
> roll up his window, and I heard him mutter under his breath, "G-Damn
> Jeep people...shee...". He quickly drove away in disgust.
>
> Jeep: 1
> Chebby: Zip.
>
> Postscript: After I shut the Jeep down, a bit of smoke wafted up from
> the alternator after all, but after cooling down, it's still working
> just fine. I am impressed that the tiny alternator had enough guts to
> charge 4 Semi batteries from a completely discharged state to the point
> where it would fire up a Detriot Diesel in 20 minutes without catching
> fire.
>
> Yes, I'm very impressed indeed. I may upgrade the alternator someday,
> but for now, it works just fine for me.
>



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  #7  
Old April 7th 06, 05:07 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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No can do; the yard is 350 miles away. I live 15 mins. from the
quarry, so I park it down here instead. The tractor has a 300-amp.
alternator installed, and as long as it will crank over, it will
eventually charge itself.

  #8  
Old April 7th 06, 05:09 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Naaaa! As a rule, Chebby owners tend to always come up light anyway,
so I'm not concerned.

Now, if I pull one out of a ditch, well, that's a different story.
I'll have to have cash in hand before I even think about hooking up a
strap.

  #9  
Old April 7th 06, 05:10 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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I sure could have used it. I did get cussed though - close enough.

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Old April 8th 06, 01:08 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Unless she's cute <G>

Jeff DeWitt

JD Adams wrote:
> Naaaa! As a rule, Chebby owners tend to always come up light anyway,
> so I'm not concerned.
>
> Now, if I pull one out of a ditch, well, that's a different story.
> I'll have to have cash in hand before I even think about hooking up a
> strap.
>

 




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