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shift stick drivers
would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission?
I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how about you? RAT |
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"Rattus The RAT" > wrote
in : > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? No way, dude. > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to > automatic, how about you? No way, dude. My left foot would get bored. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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Rattus The RAT wrote:
> would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT > > i was a hard core stick guy until i had a serious left knee injury. so i had to buy & drive an auto, always with the intention of getting rid of it when i was healed. but i never did because i suddenly found that driving in the city was so much more relaxing! seriously, if you're in stop/go traffic, the stuff where you move forward a few feet then stop, or have stop signs every block for a mile at a time, automatic is the only way to go. even on the freeway, if it's an auto with a good shift pattern, and hondas generally are, they're still plenty of fun. only if i were hard core looking to red-line it all the time would i drive stick. i sound like an old fart, but seriously, honda automatics are really very good. and provided you don't have one of the recent ones with the reliability problems, these transmissions last forever. the only thing i would say to qualify that statement is that you've got to learn to drive a little differently. on a stick, you can just change gear & go. on the auto, you have to let it know that you want it to change, and in the absence of tiptronic-type shifters, the only way the transmission/ecu knows for sure you want to drop gear & accelerate is to floor it. the ecu detects "w.o.t." [wide open throttle], and signals a down-shift accordingly. and it has a small delay on that, just in case of accidental signal blips, but once the ecu registers your intent, you're off to the races. and it holds that lower gear, [or even dropping 2 gears] until the red line before shifting, so you can accelerate hard if you have to. in terms of driveability therefore, once you get used to the style of giving it more gas than you might otherwise be used to, auto's are just dandy. the only downsides are that they weigh a little more and so can be a little slower, and that the engine always needs to be in good running order. with a stick, if it's off for some reason, you can compensate and drive it until you're ready to deal with the problem. with auto's, you can get bad flat spots in the acceleration if everything's not perfect, and that can be a pain. |
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Rattus The RAT wrote:
> would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT > > i dont drive a whole lot, since i have a couple "bikes". when i do drive, i like to drive stick. |
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Driving an automatic is crippling vs. a standard tranny. The standard
provides the kind of control that adds to security, safety and performance (but only in the hands of a race-ready driver). With the standard, you're able to fine-tune exactly how much torque you can apply to the road, control engine rpm to take advantage of road condition and get better fuel economy from it's simplistic buy highly efficient design. The newer automatic may return fuel economy that's only 5% less then a comparable standard tranny. However, the automatic's fuel economy quickly degrades as road conditions worsen, while a standard tranny can still return good efficient in poorer conditions (e.g. excessive hills or stop & go driving). One of the downside of the Standard tranny is fatigue in the left knee, which is usually avoided if the left clutch pedal is lighter variation and/or has a very short travel range. Pars "Rattus The RAT" > wrote in message ... > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT > > |
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"Rattus The RAT" > wrote: > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT I have the Accord Hybrid. The transmission is rather annoying. It will shift from 3rd to 2nd gear or 5th to 4th gear on the slightest gas pedal nudge. The motion of driving over a bump unlocks the torque converter. But, getting it from 5th to 3rd or or 2nd to 1st requires WOT for a full second. Stomp on the gas at 60MPH and it feels like you slow down first. |
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"Rattus The RAT" ) writes: > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT > I have always owned manual transmission cars but occasionally drive an automatic. I really don't like the way some automatics will downshift with the slightest push on the gas pedal. I find that I have to have a very light touch on the gas to avoid hitting peak revs (never a good thing on a cold engine). OTOH, an instant downshift can be a great thing if need to get out of the way in a hurry in an unexpected situation. Dan (This account is not used for email.) |
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"Rattus The RAT" wrote > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? I've always driven manual transmissions, too, and at age 56 got sick and tired of doing so, having to shift every few blocks of crosstown traffic. Once I got to test drive an Accord with auto, I realized these things have come a long way and I would be happy with it. I was, and still am. Sometimes in tight traffic I need extra control, so I stay in D3 for a while. Then I have all the quick acceleration I need. |
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article >, > "Rattus The RAT" > > wrote: > > >>would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > > From 98 through 03, that car didn't exist. > not even the 4 cylinder? |
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I too switched from strictly manual to auto recently because of rush
hour stop and go traffic (mostly stop). I can't say I'm disappointed with my '90 Legend's tranny yet, but time will tell. On the other hand, it only has 42K on it yet! dan Rattus The RAT wrote: > would you buy a good accord with automatic transmission? > > I've always drove manual cars, i'm not sure I could adapt to automatic, how > about you? > > RAT > > |
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