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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:39:05 -0700, "Phxbrd"
> wrote: >> >Do nothing about the intersection problems, take pictures of red light >> >running and eventually see a measurable decrease in red light running. >> >> Or install roundabouts to ease traffic flow and negate the need for >> red lights? > >Roundabouts are entirely alien to the American way of life. How hard can they be? All you have to do is give way to the right, why the need for all those stop signs and lights? >4x4's have been known to drive straight through them.... So the problem there is just poor driving, rather than the roads/lights themselves? |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:37:37 -0700, Mike Z. Helm >
wrote: >>The first sentence is incorrect. Roundabouts and traffic circles are >>everywhere. >> > >Hardly. I can only think of 1 intersection that has them and I've lived >in several large cities as well as a couple medium sized burghs. > >It took a couple times thru it before I was comfortable with them, but >the problem is we license drivers who still haven't figured out how red >lights work. The penalties for jumping redlights need to be upped then, more bans for bad drivers. |
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"Cosmic Dawg, Legally Blond" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:49:52 -0700, "Phxbrd" > > wrote: > > > > >"Cosmic Dawg, Legally Blond" > wrote > >in message ... > >> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:14:46 -0700, "Phxbrd" > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >"Larry J." > wrote in message > >> ... > >> >> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Phxbrd" > >> >> > said: > >> >> > >> >> > "Larry J." > wrote in message > >> >> > ... > >> >> >> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Phxbrd" > >> >> >> > said: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scott en Aztl n" > wrote in > >> >> >> > message ... > >> >> >> >> Take the quiz and tell us how well you do. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/metro/60194.php > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Multiply all problems by 9.7 and you'll have an approximation > >> >> >> > of driving in Phoenix. I'm amazed every day by how ****in > >> >> >> > stoopid so many drivers here are. You take your life in your > >> >> >> > hands.... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What do you expect in a state where they hand out driver's > >> >> >> licenses that are good for 20 years..? > >> >> > > >> >> > Some simple law enforcement would be nice. Cops are seen only > >> >> > at accident scenes. Our current system is clearly wrong.... > >> >> > >> >> I'm driving the north 101 Loop these days. The cops are out there in > >> >> force lately. I've seen them pull over several crazy speeders. I'm > >> >> all for that... > >> > > >> >While in the meantime all other dangerous violations all over the valley > >are > >> >ignored. Speed has yet to kill the first motorist. It's the unplanned > >> >stops what does ya in - frequently caused by buttheads driving too > >> >slow/wrong lane for traffic conditions. Italy licenses drivers according > >to > >> >real ability. On 60 Minutes, Mike Wallace rode with a Lamborghini > >factory > >> >driver licensed to drive 200 mph on 2 lane highways. Here, the > >dumb****er > >> >law "enforcers" still swear that "SPEED KILLS". > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I've always thought that kind of graduated license system would be a > >> great idea. I'm afraid it would be a hard sell here because we all > >> have to be EQUAL. > > > >You've never heard of motorcycle or chauffeur licenses? > > > > > > Yeah but they don't give you any real "extra" privileges worth a crap > and anyone can get them even if they can barely drive. I'm talking > about a license that would require a test that's actually a measure of > your driving skills so you would be able to drive some increment over > the speed limit without being able to be given a ticket. Like a 1+ > license would let you do 10 over (as long as it's not reckless), and a > 2+ would let you do 15 over, or something along those lines. > -- I agree with your premise in general - all except the "...barely drive.". I now know you're not a motorcyclist. Arizona testing is comprehensive and certainly not easy. Ask the Harley posers why they borrow decent sickles for the test.... |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, Mike Z. Helm wrote: > > >>> You're getting desperate. Law says "Brake on yellow, stop on red". I hope > >>> you don't drive where I drive.... > >> > >>I've kicked your ass debate wise. You can't even grasp the simple > >>concepts here. What do you do when the light turns yellow when you are 10 > >>feet from the line and going 30mph in a 35mph zone? > > > > Go thru the light. > > > At 44 feet per second, the yellow will have to be about 1/5 of a second > > for you to be caught by the red. Most people couldn't even react that > > fast. > > > > But your point is taken. Yellow means to stop if you can do so safely. > > That's the point. > > > Set standards for lengths of yellows, assure they're reasonable, publish > > them, record logs of camera times and make them public. > > But that doesn't happen. Such things aren't even checked. A camera is > just put up to rake in the cash. > > > BTW, why would anyone go 30 in a 35? > > I framed it for easy math and to keep the speed kills freaks from > diverting the issue. You're an idiot. Again I say google up some knowledge of red-light cameras in order to understand what you're trying to teach others. Why are the most ignorant often the most verbose? "...10 feet from the line..." is no problem whatsoever. Duh.... |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, Phxbrd wrote: > > > > "Brent P" > wrote in message > > ... > >> In article >, Phxbrd wrote: > >> > > >> > "Brent P" > wrote in message > >> > ... > >> >> In article >, Phxbrd wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > You shouldn't even be in this discussion. Everyone rational knows > > the > >> >> > longer the yellow light, the more red-light running. Would-be > > killers > >> >> > always want longer yellows.... > >> >> > >> >> Another judyesque moron. Here's some logic for you. If what you wrote > >> >> above were true, then NO yellow light would be best. This is known to > > be > >> >> false and thusly your premise fails. > >> > > >> > You're getting desperate. Law says "Brake on yellow, stop on red". I > > hope > >> > you don't drive where I drive.... > >> > >> I've kicked your ass debate wise. You can't even grasp the simple > >> concepts here. What do you do when the light turns yellow when you are 10 > >> feet from the line and going 30mph in a 35mph zone? > > > > Here we go yet again.... You have NO idea how stoplight cameras work. > > Before showing your ass any further, I suggest you do a little > > investigation. You're in the same bind Little John got into several years > > ago. Bluster doesn't replace knowledge.... > > You don't want to respond to the point being made. Figures. There's no point except that you're ignorant on the subject. Bluster fails again. Go learn! |
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In article >,
Phxbrd > wrote: > > >It's been rehashed here many times over the years. Lunatics STILL insist >their right to run "pink lights" Orange. Red and yellow make orange, not pink. >pretending it's all about gummint revenue when they'd collect squat if no >one ran red lights. Duh.... If no one ran the red lights at the red light cameras, conditions would be changed until they did. |
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In article >,
Phxbrd > wrote: > >"Brent P" > wrote in message ... >> In article >, Phxbrd wrote: >> >> > You shouldn't even be in this discussion. Everyone rational knows the >> > longer the yellow light, the more red-light running. Would-be killers >> > always want longer yellows.... >> >> Another judyesque moron. Here's some logic for you. If what you wrote >> above were true, then NO yellow light would be best. This is known to be >> false and thusly your premise fails. > >You're getting desperate. Law says "Brake on yellow, stop on red". I hope >you don't drive where I drive.... Despite the quotes, there's no such law in any jurisdiction I'm familiar with. Some jurisdictions requite no special action for a yellow light (compared to a green), others say to stop if you can do so safely, and at least one (Washington, D.C.) says to stop. |
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"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Phxbrd > wrote: > > > > > >It's been rehashed here many times over the years. Lunatics STILL insist > >their right to run "pink lights" > > Orange. Red and yellow make orange, not pink. > > >pretending it's all about gummint revenue when they'd collect squat if no > >one ran red lights. Duh.... > > If no one ran the red lights at the red light cameras, conditions > would be changed until they did. There's a RLC at a dangerous intersection near my house. I've had my picture taken at least several times, but have yet to receive any citations. Anyone care to explain? This is a test.... |
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