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Old November 24th 03, 11:21 PM
Jim Seidman
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(Robert H) wrote in message . com...
I did a search on the product in Google and came up with lots of
stuff..(never saw Rexs comments, but lots of talk about the product in
lots and lots of forums) There was plenty of sketicisim both in
freshwater and Marine forums, but not all negative. They do have their
supporters. FAMA magazine wrote a very positive review of it, and
Monolith Marine Monsters, M3, is not only seling the product, but
gives much detailed information about how it works and the science
behind it. M3 has long had a reputation of selling only high quality
specialty equipment. Many of you have their C02 equipment and swear by
them. Even with past troubles, M3s reputation for its product line has
been sterling, (much to my dismay!)
http://www.marine-monsters.com/front...aqualizer.html
There are other very well respected dealers putting their reputation
on the line by selling this product.


I was very disappointed in the FAMA review, and I'm frankly surprised
that FAMA printed it. How often do you read a product review in which
the reviewed hasn't used the product? Not once did the reviewed relate
any personal experiences. There was no before-and-after water quality
test results. It was just a "I love the theory behind this product!"
lovefest rave. Far below FAMA's usual quality.

Similarly, M3 doesn't give any new information on how it works, it's
just a rehash of the Eco-Aqualizer website. M3 doesn't actually say
they use the product themselves.

I have yet to find anyone who has actually used the product and
reported a good experience. All of the supporters seem to be people
who haven't actually tried it, or at least aren't reporting any
specific results.

If anyone knows of positive reviews written by people who have
actually used the Eco-Aqualizer, pleaes let me know.

- Jim
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Old November 24th 03, 11:29 PM
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tose (LeighMo) wrote in message ...

Well, we're all adults. Those of us who have been posting to this thread have
been following the PSW mess from the beginning. We know the risks we are
taking by speaking out. We know them all too well. Obviously, if we're still
speaking out, we've made some decisions about freedom of speech vs. risk of
lawsuits. Trust us to make our own decisions, okay?



Absolutly not!This est Amerika!

Just follow the law(Not Bob's law), speak your mind, speak the truth.

Tag these companies for the issues, not explaining their unexplainable
crystal water methods that solve water changes for 8 months with no
export of waste, emissions of radition but no electric plug, etc.
I saw a compnay that claimed the crystals will cure just about any and
everything, just drop it in the tank.

I have gone after some products in the past over the principles they
claim.
But they will engauge in discussion about them. If not they have no
right to come back with a lawyer later but legally they can. Doesn't
mean it's right or will help them at all in the end.

Lawyers are for people who cannot get along.

You can remove the post but you cannot remove the doubt and the lack
of explaination nor the general suspicion this approach of theirs
imparts to the netizens of the web.

Thuis is were this guy blew it, he could not address the consumer's
questions tactifully.

They think they can pawn off some crap references that many times are
not applicable to the situation they want to back their claims up
with.

How stupid do you think people are?
I find it insulting. Then they threaten you on top of it.

But do not slander them. They do not deserve that, they do deserve
critical discussion if they do not play ball with the consumer.

This company will lose their already very questionable good will with
this approach of silencing individual aquarist on the net.
We all know this to well from another case.

Business is just not done this way and you simply cannot sell anything
with this attitude on the net.

The customer is always right.
Some block heads just don't get it.

But just keep pounding these rat *******s on the issues and stay on
topic, do not take it personally, do not slander or break laws(this is
were you have potential for trouble), but keep asking them to prove
their claims.

Show some good debating skills.

They cannot threaten you for asking questions.
Just stay on topic, discuss how on earth all this energy is able to
come out of these biocermic doohickys for 21 years and coon's life.
How would this change anything vs a larger skimmer or O3 etc. Let's
see some water quality data and some sources of export of these waste.

Cat got their tongue?
Keep posting and questioning them.
All those unanswered questions will build up on those search engines
and folks wanting to take a look will see the opinions about how this
company handled their business froma consumer's viewpoint.

It's pretty darn poor from all accounts thus far.

The future is up to the company, it'll only get worse going the
direction they are now.

Regards,
Tom Barr
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Old November 27th 03, 01:11 AM
Robert H
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Just follow the law(Not Bob's law), speak your mind, speak the truth.

Tom it was your attorney friend, and fellow defendant Steve Dixon who
told me calling a product "snake oil" is slander and is against the
law. But you are right, you are all adults and make your own choices.
And even if you are in the right, its worth going thru two or three
years of hell. Sure.
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Old November 27th 03, 04:02 AM
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Hey Robert H -

How come the Judge denied your request for dismissal but granted others? Is
your dismissal covered by one of the others?

--
Bob Alston

bobalston9 AT aol DOT com
"Robert H" wrote in message
om...
Just follow the law(Not Bob's law), speak your mind, speak the truth.


Tom it was your attorney friend, and fellow defendant Steve Dixon who
told me calling a product "snake oil" is slander and is against the
law. But you are right, you are all adults and make your own choices.
And even if you are in the right, its worth going thru two or three
years of hell. Sure.



 




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