Minimum Lift Question

I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
are appreciated.

Thanks!

-Fred

I can say this:

My brother and I both have 2003 Rubis, both with 4.5" RE lifts. He has
33s and I have 35s. Mine will rub occasionally offroad, nothing serious,
but nonetheless, they slightly rub. His does not. Looks great too! My
opinion is that you need 4" with 33s if you offroad.

Fred Garvin wrote:

> I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
> what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
> stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
> are appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred


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tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
to insure the 33" tires won't rub.

Jerry

Fred Garvin wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
> what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
> stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
> are appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred
>
>

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Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Just out of curiosity, can the stock rims take the 33x10.5's or the
super traction 33x9.5's and not rub?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
> those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
> bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
> to insure the 33" tires won't rub.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
> > what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
> > stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
> > are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Fred
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Missed the part about the factory wheels. While I know there are some
people doing it with 33s on the stock Rubi wheels, I can't imagine they
are not having contact problems with the 5" backspacing. I really wanted
to keep my Rubi's factory wheels, but did not find this feasible. You
really need another inch of backspacing to be free from contact. Rubi
wheels are still bringing in some serious cash, so you might look at
Ebaying yours, and buy the wheels of your choice in the correct
configuration at even money.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
> those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
> bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
> to insure the 33" tires won't rub.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>
>> I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to
>> know what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires
>> won't rub, stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments
>> and suggestion are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Fred


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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Yep, 33x10.50 tires are not a problem for factory wheels, the problem is
with the added width of the 33x12.50 tire.

Jerry

Mike Romain wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, can the stock rims take the 33x10.5's or the
> super traction 33x9.5's and not rub?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
>>those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
>>bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
>>to insure the 33" tires won't rub.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>>>I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
>>>what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
>>>stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
>>>are appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>-Fred
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

POINT OF ORDER
Don't you really mean an inch LESS of backspacing. The stock rims have 5",
wouldn't you need only 4" to avoid rubbing.




"twaldron" > wrote in message
...
> Missed the part about the factory wheels. While I know there are some
> people doing it with 33s on the stock Rubi wheels, I can't imagine they
> are not having contact problems with the 5" backspacing. I really wanted
> to keep my Rubi's factory wheels, but did not find this feasible. You
> really need another inch of backspacing to be free from contact. Rubi
> wheels are still bringing in some serious cash, so you might look at
> Ebaying yours, and buy the wheels of your choice in the correct
> configuration at even money.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
> > those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
> > bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
> > to insure the 33" tires won't rub.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Fred Garvin wrote:
> >
> >> I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to
> >> know what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires
> >> won't rub, stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments
> >> and suggestion are appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -Fred
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Yes, Jeff! That is what I meant, thanks for clarifying.

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> POINT OF ORDER
> Don't you really mean an inch LESS of backspacing. The stock rims have 5",
> wouldn't you need only 4" to avoid rubbing.
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Missed the part about the factory wheels. While I know there are some
>>people doing it with 33s on the stock Rubi wheels, I can't imagine they
>>are not having contact problems with the 5" backspacing. I really wanted
>>to keep my Rubi's factory wheels, but did not find this feasible. You
>>really need another inch of backspacing to be free from contact. Rubi
>>wheels are still bringing in some serious cash, so you might look at
>>Ebaying yours, and buy the wheels of your choice in the correct
>>configuration at even money.
>>
>>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You cannot put 33x12.50 on the factory wheels, they will rub because
>>>those wheels have too much backspacing. 3" of suspension lift is the
>>>bare minimum with a 1" body lift a good idea for a little more clearance
>>>to insure the 33" tires won't rub.
>>>
>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to
>>>>know what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires
>>>>won't rub, stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments
>>>>and suggestion are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>-Fred
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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For your 16" wheels, the best MTR size for minimal lift (~2") is
235/85R16, which is roughly equivalent to 32x9.50. If your rims are 8"
wide you might get away with 285/75R16 (about 33x11.50). Extending bump
stops can limit rubbing with less lift.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Fred Garvin wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon that I want to put 33" MTRs on. I would like to know
> what the MINIMUM lift (in height) I can get so that the tires won't rub,
> stick out and I can still use my stock rims. Your comments and suggestion
> are appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred

I am running wheel spacers on my cj5, work great, make sure they are
torqued right,