1991 British Racing Green Special Edition Spec Miata Race car

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
>
>> >"Towing eyes per GCR Section 17.31 are required. Stock towing eyes may
>> >be modified, replaced, or removed but may serve no other purpose."
>>
>> How can they be required but you are allowed to remove them??
>>
>> Since the stock towing eyes weigh a ton, I would think everyone
>> would "modify" them to be of balsa wood.
>
> This is too stupid to argue about. You might want to read the GCR
> yourself before posting more silliness.
>

Seems like a reasonable response to what you posted. Perhaps the sentence
is above is taken out of context?????

"Frank Berger" > wrote:

>
>"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
>>
>>> >"Towing eyes per GCR Section 17.31 are required. Stock towing eyes may
>>> >be modified, replaced, or removed but may serve no other purpose."
>>>
>>> How can they be required but you are allowed to remove them??
>>>
>>> Since the stock towing eyes weigh a ton, I would think everyone
>>> would "modify" them to be of balsa wood.
>>
>> This is too stupid to argue about. You might want to read the GCR
>> yourself before posting more silliness.
>>
>
>Seems like a reasonable response to what you posted. Perhaps the sentence
>is above is taken out of context?????

On thinking it over, I would suspect there is a word "not" missing in
the description of Lanny.

Leon

--
Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
http://www.dommelen.net/miata
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

"Leon van Dommelen" > wrote in message
...
> "Frank Berger" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >,
>>> (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
>>>
>>>> >"Towing eyes per GCR Section 17.31 are required. Stock towing eyes may
>>>> >be modified, replaced, or removed but may serve no other purpose."
>>>>
>>>> How can they be required but you are allowed to remove them??
>>>>
>>>> Since the stock towing eyes weigh a ton, I would think everyone
>>>> would "modify" them to be of balsa wood.
>>>
>>> This is too stupid to argue about. You might want to read the GCR
>>> yourself before posting more silliness.
>>>
>>
>>Seems like a reasonable response to what you posted. Perhaps the sentence
>>is above is taken out of context?????
>
> On thinking it over, I would suspect there is a word "not" missing in
> the description of Lanny.
>
> Leon
>

That makes sense.

In article >,
(Leon van Dommelen) wrote:

> >>> >"Towing eyes per GCR Section 17.31 are required. Stock towing eyes may
> >>> >be modified, replaced, or removed but may serve no other purpose."
> >
> >Seems like a reasonable response to what you posted. Perhaps the sentence
> >is above is taken out of context?????
>
> On thinking it over, I would suspect there is a word "not" missing in
> the description of Lanny.

Dunno who is describing me, but I copied and pasted the quote straight
from the GCR. What's so hard to understand? Every race car must have
towing eyes; if the stock ones meet (or can be modified to meet) the
specs, you can use them. If you add new towing eyes, you may remove the
OEM ones.

I'm having some difficulty envisioning a plausible alternate purpose for
OEM towhooks, though. I propose a contest!

--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'm having some difficulty envisioning a plausible alternate purpose for
> OEM towhooks, though. I propose a contest!
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers

Check out any of the ALMS cars. They have the same tow eye rule.

> "Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I'm having some difficulty envisioning a plausible alternate purpose for
>>OEM towhooks, though. I propose a contest!


I say make them into earrings!
-alex-
(who's 90b still had the eyes when he sold it last month because they
came in handy when trailing the car when he moved each year)...
05 Nordic Green with hooks!

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
>
>> >>> >"Towing eyes per GCR Section 17.31 are required. Stock towing eyes
>> >>> >may
>> >>> >be modified, replaced, or removed but may serve no other purpose."
>> >
>> >Seems like a reasonable response to what you posted. Perhaps the
>> >sentence
>> >is above is taken out of context?????
>>
>> On thinking it over, I would suspect there is a word "not" missing in
>> the description of Lanny.
>
> Dunno who is describing me, but I copied and pasted the quote straight
> from the GCR. What's so hard to understand?

Just read the sentence. As written, it says you can modify, replace or
remove the hooks. That is equivalent to no policy at all. The only
"content" of the rule seems to be the last part which prohibits using the
hooks for another purpose. Taken literally, the first part of the sentence
is irrelevant, which is why it can be confusing. It is probably meant to
clarify, but it just creates confusion, detracting attention from the meat
of the rule.

In article >,
"Frank Berger" > wrote:

> As written, it says you can modify, replace or
> remove the hooks. That is equivalent to no policy at all.

Bear in mind that the SCCA GCR is a "permissive" rulebook: if it doesn't
say you CAN do something, then you cannot. An absence of policy would
mean you can't mess with it. It's a point-of-view issue.

--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

In article <43A26850.2070109@_copper_dot_net>,
"Alex M. Postpischil" <apost_@_copper_dot_net> wrote:

> I propose a contest!
>
>
> I say make them into earrings!

No, no. The new purpose must be intended to get the car around the track
more quickly. Even if it requires an alternative physics model and/or
significant suspension of disbelief.

--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Wow, you'all are having a great time with the tow hooks ehh? The
factory ones are still there, but I am removing them to install SCCA
racing spec hooks that I bought from saferacer.com The rules do call
for tow hooks like you guys said, and Mazdaspeed Motorsports
development sells a set but they are unpainted and $50 with tax and
shipping. Saferacers were painted orange already, and $40 without tax.
When I remove the tow hooks I make sure to let everyone know, I'll have
em on ebay ha, ha. If you guys need any other parts from the car some
of them are on ebay right now, get'em while they last!
Lanny Chambers wrote:
> In article <43A26850.2070109@_copper_dot_net>,
> "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost_@_copper_dot_net> wrote:
>
> > I propose a contest!
> >
> >
> > I say make them into earrings!
>
> No, no. The new purpose must be intended to get the car around the track
> more quickly. Even if it requires an alternative physics model and/or
> significant suspension of disbelief.
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers
> '94C, St. Louis
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html