Synthetic Oil Questions

Do you think Saturn would kill my warranty if I wanted to use a synthetic or
part synthetic oil like Mobil 1 or Clean 7500? I have the 2005 ION QC (not
redline) and the manual is pretty explicit on regular oil, but I want to
have this car last a good long time and the Clean 7500 is less than $3 a
quart. Also I like having the dealership do the maintenance until the
warranty is expired, so since they do not stock Clean 7500 I would have to
provide it.

Or is Mobil 1 that much better and worth the extra money?

In article <HUD2f.19344$3w.11071@trnddc07>,
says...
> Do you think Saturn would kill my warranty if I wanted to use a synthetic or
> part synthetic oil like Mobil 1 or Clean 7500? I have the 2005 ION QC (not
> redline) and the manual is pretty explicit on regular oil, but I want to
> have this car last a good long time and the Clean 7500 is less than $3 a
> quart. Also I like having the dealership do the maintenance until the
> warranty is expired, so since they do not stock Clean 7500 I would have to
> provide it.
>
> Or is Mobil 1 that much better and worth the extra money?

You shouldnt use synthetics until your engine is broken in which is
about 9000 miles. Synthetic Oils last a long time but oil filters can
still load up before 4000 miles.

You can use synthetic oil from day one in your car. Corvettes and
others come from the factory with mobil1.


Paul

You'll gain nothing by using $ynthetic in ANY vehicle. Save your money.

--
Steve Barker



"Gary" > wrote in message
news:HUD2f.19344$3w.11071@trnddc07...
> Do you think Saturn would kill my warranty if I wanted to use a synthetic
> or part synthetic oil like Mobil 1 or Clean 7500? I have the 2005 ION QC
> (not redline) and the manual is pretty explicit on regular oil, but I want
> to have this car last a good long time and the Clean 7500 is less than $3
> a quart. Also I like having the dealership do the maintenance until the
> warranty is expired, so since they do not stock Clean 7500 I would have to
> provide it.
>
> Or is Mobil 1 that much better and worth the extra money?
>
>

In article . com>,
says...
> You can use synthetic oil from day one in your car.

Yeah if you never want your piston rings to correctly seat themselves.

> Corvettes and
> others come from the factory with mobil 1.
>
> Paul

I doubt many here can afford the cars Mobil 1 comes pre-installed in.
Vette owners at one time had a notice sent to them in the mail that
stated not to change the oil for 40,000 miles or so. It was an attempt
to help the engines break in and seal. GM later recanted that.

In article >,
says...
> You'll gain nothing by using $ynthetic in ANY vehicle. Save your money.
>

Thats a lot of bs in such a small statement...

> You'll gain nothing by using $ynthetic in ANY vehicle.

That depends on how you drive your car or if you plan on keeping it long
enough to see the longevity benefit (which most people nowadays do not).

I had a motor go bad at 93k. I typically ran Quaker State regular oil in
it, and religiously changed the oil every 3000 miles since it was new. When
I opened up the dead motor, I COULD NOT believe how dirty and gunked up it
was inside. It was amazing. You can see photos in the project section of
my website.

Conversely, the replacement motor which went in and I bought new - I
switched it to synthetic at 500 miles and it is now up to 47k. I recently
opened it up to replace the valve cover gasket and was again shocked at what
I saw inside this motor as well - but in a good way. The top end still
looked new as can be, and as though oil never touched the insides. It
looked so good I had to take a picture.

I'm sold on synthetic from a longevity standpoint, and also use it in my
race car since it sees much harsher than normal duty. It also prevents the
motor in my daily driver from making odd noises on startup after it is
parked outside overnight in winters where the temp can get as low as -40 (in
the -60s with windchill). That has to be hard on a motor.

Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
---
Visit my Saturn Car Audio and Performance Page at http://www.evilplastic.com



"Steve Barker LT" > wrote in message
...
> You'll gain nothing by using $ynthetic in ANY vehicle. Save your money.
>
> --
> Steve Barker
>
>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> news:HUD2f.19344$3w.11071@trnddc07...
> > Do you think Saturn would kill my warranty if I wanted to use a
synthetic
> > or part synthetic oil like Mobil 1 or Clean 7500? I have the 2005 ION QC
> > (not redline) and the manual is pretty explicit on regular oil, but I
want
> > to have this car last a good long time and the Clean 7500 is less than
$3
> > a quart. Also I like having the dealership do the maintenance until the
> > warranty is expired, so since they do not stock Clean 7500 I would have
to
> > provide it.
> >
> > Or is Mobil 1 that much better and worth the extra money?
> >
> >
>
>

I've heard similar stories from several other Quaker State oil users. I
have no idea if they are caused by the oil or not, but stay away from QS
just in case. This is similar to the Fram oil filter situation which I also
avoid like the plague.

Bob

"Lane" > wrote in message
...
> I had a motor go bad at 93k. I typically ran Quaker State regular oil in
> it, and religiously changed the oil every 3000 miles since it was new.
When
> I opened up the dead motor, I COULD NOT believe how dirty and gunked up it
> was inside. It was amazing. You can see photos in the project section of
> my website.

Conventional QS has a pretty high ash content when compaired to other
oils. Synthetic oils have no ash content. Thats one reason why
Synthetics dont sludge up, cake up, or create dirt seals. This is why
people think synthetics "Create" leaks. They do nothing to replenish
dirt seals.


In article >,
says...
> I've heard similar stories from several other Quaker State oil users. I
> have no idea if they are caused by the oil or not, but stay away from QS
> just in case. This is similar to the Fram oil filter situation which I also
> avoid like the plague.
>
> Bob
>
> "Lane" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I had a motor go bad at 93k. I typically ran Quaker State regular oil in
> > it, and religiously changed the oil every 3000 miles since it was new.
> When
> > I opened up the dead motor, I COULD NOT believe how dirty and gunked up it
> > was inside. It was amazing. You can see photos in the project section of
> > my website.
>
>
>

Yes, I've heard the same thing about Quaker State. As I recall the postings
I've read attributed this to Pennsylvania crude in general ... Although I
can't help but wonder if Quaker State actually still comes out of the PN
crude any more.

Bob

"Blah Blah" > wrote in message
...
> Conventional QS has a pretty high ash content when compaired to other
> oils. Synthetic oils have no ash content. Thats one reason why
> Synthetics dont sludge up, cake up, or create dirt seals. This is why
> people think synthetics "Create" leaks. They do nothing to replenish
> dirt seals.

I would rec it. because synthetic don't break down or tar up. it is made to
protect and condition.