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Old May 7th 05, 11:39 PM
RichA
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Default Bush's call for "more diesel"

That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle. Do yourselves
a favour; Go buy some Jap electro-gas hybrid and SPARE
the rest of us the fumes. It's bad enough with regular
trucks on the road. Everytime some retard with a diesel
crapo Volkswagon gets in front of me, I wish I had on-board
missle launchers like James Bond.
-Rich
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Old May 8th 05, 12:23 AM
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In article >, RichA
> wrote:

> That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
> clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
> cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle


Modern diesels have come a long way. And there's designs out there that
run on, geez, almost anything.
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Old May 8th 05, 12:51 AM
Michael Johnson, PE
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Quiet Desperation wrote:
> In article >, RichA
> > wrote:
>
>
>>That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
>>clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
>>cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle

>
>
> Modern diesels have come a long way. And there's designs out there that
> run on, geez, almost anything.


Yes, diesels can run very clean and the technology to make them cleaner
is advancing rapidly. They have some very good advantages over gas
engines and like QD said, they run on damn near anything from McDonald's
fry vat grease to reconstituted garbage. Also, they get more miles to
the gallon the gas engines due to the high specific energy of their fuel
type.

Ponder this, in Europe where gas is $4.00+/gallon 40% of the cars on the
road are diesels. Why do you think that is the case?
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Old May 8th 05, 01:06 AM
Jim Warman
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At this point in time, the diesel, belive it or not, is considered as the
powerplant of the future (fuels cells aside). I know of bio-diesel mixtures
that are along the lines of 20% vegetable oil and I'm reasonably sure that
there are fuels available with even higher concentrations of vegetable oil
in them.

Currently, there are many experimenting with diesels run only on vegetable
oils.

What you need to direct your anger towards are those diesel owners that chip
the bejiggers out of their trucks defeating every emission and anti-puff
strategy the manufacturers have to offer.

Jim Warman
Ford Senior Tech
Diesel Certified....

f*ck off, hurc.


"RichA" > wrote in message
...
> That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
> clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
> cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle. Do yourselves
> a favour; Go buy some Jap electro-gas hybrid and SPARE
> the rest of us the fumes. It's bad enough with regular
> trucks on the road. Everytime some retard with a diesel
> crapo Volkswagon gets in front of me, I wish I had on-board
> missle launchers like James Bond.
> -Rich



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Old May 8th 05, 01:13 AM
Spike
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$4 per gallon? Jeezzzzz. In Portugal I paid $6.40US per Liter, and it
went as high as $8+ during the winter. In Japan it was $6.80US per
Liter.

On Sat, 07 May 2005 19:51:51 -0400, "Michael Johnson, PE"
> wrote:

>Quiet Desperation wrote:
>> In article >, RichA
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
>>>clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
>>>cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle

>>
>>
>> Modern diesels have come a long way. And there's designs out there that
>> run on, geez, almost anything.

>
>Yes, diesels can run very clean and the technology to make them cleaner
>is advancing rapidly. They have some very good advantages over gas
>engines and like QD said, they run on damn near anything from McDonald's
>fry vat grease to reconstituted garbage. Also, they get more miles to
>the gallon the gas engines due to the high specific energy of their fuel
>type.
>
>Ponder this, in Europe where gas is $4.00+/gallon 40% of the cars on the
>road are diesels. Why do you think that is the case?


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Old May 8th 05, 01:18 AM
Michael Johnson, PE
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Ouch! I guess I'm 10 years behind the times then.

Spike wrote:
> $4 per gallon? Jeezzzzz. In Portugal I paid $6.40US per Liter, and it
> went as high as $8+ during the winter. In Japan it was $6.80US per
> Liter.
>
> On Sat, 07 May 2005 19:51:51 -0400, "Michael Johnson, PE"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Quiet Desperation wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, RichA
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
>>>>clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
>>>>cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>Modern diesels have come a long way. And there's designs out there that
>>>run on, geez, almost anything.

>>
>>Yes, diesels can run very clean and the technology to make them cleaner
>>is advancing rapidly. They have some very good advantages over gas
>>engines and like QD said, they run on damn near anything from McDonald's
>>fry vat grease to reconstituted garbage. Also, they get more miles to
>>the gallon the gas engines due to the high specific energy of their fuel
>>type.
>>
>>Ponder this, in Europe where gas is $4.00+/gallon 40% of the cars on the
>>road are diesels. Why do you think that is the case?

>
>
> Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
> 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
> Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
> Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
> w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

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Old May 8th 05, 01:31 AM
Michael Johnson, PE
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I watched a show on the Science Channel the other day where a guy is
working on a process of turning landfill garbage into an equivalent of
diesel fuel. They could take darn near anything from organics to tires
to feed their contraption. They wouldn't tell the specifics of the
process but said they basically mimic mother nature's method of creating
crude oil. They just made the time frame much shorter. They said the
net energy resulting from the process was very promising and would get
better as they tweaked the machinery.

It would be great if we end up mining our own garbage to turn it into
diesel fuel.

Jim Warman wrote:
> At this point in time, the diesel, belive it or not, is considered as the
> powerplant of the future (fuels cells aside). I know of bio-diesel mixtures
> that are along the lines of 20% vegetable oil and I'm reasonably sure that
> there are fuels available with even higher concentrations of vegetable oil
> in them.
>
> Currently, there are many experimenting with diesels run only on vegetable
> oils.
>
> What you need to direct your anger towards are those diesel owners that chip
> the bejiggers out of their trucks defeating every emission and anti-puff
> strategy the manufacturers have to offer.
>
> Jim Warman
> Ford Senior Tech
> Diesel Certified....
>
> f*ck off, hurc.
>
>
> "RichA" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
>>clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
>>cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle. Do yourselves
>>a favour; Go buy some Jap electro-gas hybrid and SPARE
>> the rest of us the fumes. It's bad enough with regular
>>trucks on the road. Everytime some retard with a diesel
>>crapo Volkswagon gets in front of me, I wish I had on-board
>>missle launchers like James Bond.
>>-Rich

>
>
>

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Old May 8th 05, 01:34 AM
66 6F HCS
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"Jim Warman" > wrote
> Currently, there are many experimenting with diesels run only on vegetable
> oils.


There's a local guy here in Denver who converts engines to run on the used
oil from the fryers at McDonald's, Burger King, et al. The exhaust smells
like whatever was fried in the oil. Fries, chicken, fish, whatever. lol.
--
Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Old May 8th 05, 01:52 AM
Joe
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Add a couple of turbos and we're back in the game!


"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
:

> I watched a show on the Science Channel the other day where a guy is
> working on a process of turning landfill garbage into an equivalent
> of diesel fuel. They could take darn near anything from organics to
> tires to feed their contraption. They wouldn't tell the specifics
> of the process but said they basically mimic mother nature's method
> of creating crude oil. They just made the time frame much shorter.
> They said the net energy resulting from the process was very
> promising and would get better as they tweaked the machinery.
>
> It would be great if we end up mining our own garbage to turn it
> into diesel fuel.

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Old May 8th 05, 03:30 AM
Michael Johnson, PE
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Considering the diesel's compression ratio you and I should love a hot
rodded version. It would be a torque monster. Hmmm... maybe a twin
screw blower would be a good addition.

Joe wrote:
> Add a couple of turbos and we're back in the game!
>
>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>I watched a show on the Science Channel the other day where a guy is
>>working on a process of turning landfill garbage into an equivalent
>>of diesel fuel. They could take darn near anything from organics to
>>tires to feed their contraption. They wouldn't tell the specifics
>>of the process but said they basically mimic mother nature's method
>>of creating crude oil. They just made the time frame much shorter.
>>They said the net energy resulting from the process was very
>>promising and would get better as they tweaked the machinery.
>>
>>It would be great if we end up mining our own garbage to turn it
>>into diesel fuel.

 




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