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The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed



 
 
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  #11  
Old May 14th 13, 03:03 AM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Eddie Powalski
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to befixed

On Tue, 14 May 2013 01:35:34 +0000, Eddie Powalski wrote:

> This guy had a similar problem at point 6:45 of this video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcnwdIYEfI


Another fix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaP-nT3Zog

And another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3o5tHLWZKc

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Old May 14th 13, 04:20 AM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Steve W.[_6_]
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

Danny D wrote:
> On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:45:45 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
>
>> They also sell plain caps. Look under the parts heading.

>
> I see them! I will call tomorrow to see if they fit the Blitz cans.
> http://ezpourspout.bluesarthouse.ws/...roducts/parts/
>
> I'll say I'm from Kansas, or some other non-nanny state!
>
> PS: Let's hope the 'gubament doesn't see this!
>


You can order the "water spout" which is the same material just white in
color.

The yellow cap is the one you need. Fit's blitz cans.

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Old May 14th 13, 06:17 AM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Brent[_4_]
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

On 2013-05-13, Steve W. > wrote:
> Danny D wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 23:21:29 +0000, Danny D wrote:
>>
>>> the one workaround I haven't seen, since the spout is so useless,
>>> is to replace it with a plain old gasoline cap?

>>
>> I'm not sure if the company will ever get out of chapter 11; but,
>> if anyone knows of a second source for a plain old gasoline cap,
>> we'd all benefit.
>> http://www.blitzusa.com/chapter11filings.html
>>
>> Any ideas for a plain Jane gasoline cap for the Blitz gas can?

>
>
> http://ezpourspout.bluesarthouse.ws/wp/
> Works great and has fit every can I have.


Because they sell it for containers made -before- 2009. In other words
it works because it doesn't meet the regs. See it's up to you not use it
on containers made after 2009....

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Old May 14th 13, 11:45 AM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
George[_15_]
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

On 5/13/2013 7:54 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> Danny D wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 23:21:29 +0000, Danny D wrote:
>>
>>> the one workaround I haven't seen, since the spout is so useless,
>>> is to replace it with a plain old gasoline cap?

>>
>> I'm not sure if the company will ever get out of chapter 11; but, if
>> anyone knows of a second source for a plain old gasoline cap, we'd all
>> benefit.
>> http://www.blitzusa.com/chapter11filings.html
>>
>> Any ideas for a plain Jane gasoline cap for the Blitz gas can?

>
>
> http://ezpourspout.bluesarthouse.ws/wp/
> Works great and has fit every can I have.


I have purchased those but they are useless on the new and improved cans
which have a different thread size.

Their web site prominently notes that:

"EZ-POUR REPLACEMENT SPOUT KIT IS DESIGNED AND SOLD AS REPLACEMENT PARTS
SPECIFICALLY FOR PORTABLE FUEL CONTAINERS MANUFACTURED BEFORE JANUARY 2009"
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Old May 14th 13, 12:00 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
George[_15_]
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

On 5/14/2013 1:17 AM, Brent wrote:
> On 2013-05-13, Steve W. > wrote:
>> Danny D wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 23:21:29 +0000, Danny D wrote:
>>>
>>>> the one workaround I haven't seen, since the spout is so useless,
>>>> is to replace it with a plain old gasoline cap?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if the company will ever get out of chapter 11; but,
>>> if anyone knows of a second source for a plain old gasoline cap,
>>> we'd all benefit.
>>> http://www.blitzusa.com/chapter11filings.html
>>>
>>> Any ideas for a plain Jane gasoline cap for the Blitz gas can?

>>
>>
>> http://ezpourspout.bluesarthouse.ws/wp/
>> Works great and has fit every can I have.

>
> Because they sell it for containers made -before- 2009. In other words
> it works because it doesn't meet the regs. See it's up to you not use it
> on containers made after 2009....
>


I have only dealt with a few but the thread size on the pre 2009 cans is
different than the post 2009 "new style" cans. Likely intentional to
prevent the use of older accessories.
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Old May 14th 13, 03:17 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to befixed

On Tue, 14 May 2013 07:00:13 -0400, George wrote:

> I have only dealt with a few but the thread size on the pre 2009 cans is
> different than the post 2009 "new style" cans. Likely intentional to
> prevent the use of older accessories.


I had a few older gas cans lying around and none fit the California
2011 & 2012 Blitz cans I have, so that's why I'm leery also.

However, I'll order a dozen of the B4 caps ($5 + shipping) to see
if they fit & report back when they arrive.

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Old May 14th 13, 03:39 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to befixed

On Tue, 14 May 2013 06:45:18 -0400, George wrote:

> "EZ-POUR REPLACEMENT SPOUT KIT IS DESIGNED AND SOLD AS REPLACEMENT PARTS
> SPECIFICALLY FOR PORTABLE FUEL CONTAINERS MANUFACTURED BEFORE JANUARY 2009"


This could be due to one of two possible reasons:
1. It could be legalese (as previously stated), or,
2. It might actually be the wrong threads.

I'll try calling Blitz again to see if they changed their threads:
Blitz U.S.A., Inc., 404 26th Ave. NW, Miami, OK 74354

Unfortunately, the Blitz USA hotline is out of commission:
24-hour Consumer Service Hotline at 877-922-5489
So is the Blitz local telephone number:
918-540-1515

I'm going to have to order a few caps just to see if they fit.
I may also buy the water jug caps, to see if they fit.

If anyone has *already* tested the cap, it would be nice to
see if they fit.

Maybe someone can test them side-by-side in the store?
(I'll check out my local stores to see if they have both
the water jugs and the gasoline jugs to test.)
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Old May 14th 13, 04:01 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Steve W.[_6_]
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

Danny D wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 07:00:13 -0400, George wrote:
>
>> I have only dealt with a few but the thread size on the pre 2009 cans is
>> different than the post 2009 "new style" cans. Likely intentional to
>> prevent the use of older accessories.

>
> I had a few older gas cans lying around and none fit the California
> 2011 & 2012 Blitz cans I have, so that's why I'm leery also.
>
> However, I'll order a dozen of the B4 caps ($5 + shipping) to see
> if they fit & report back when they arrive.
>


They are available in some retail stores as well as online. I picked
mine up at a Tractor Supply. Might want to check that avenue first, they
list the retail stores on the site.


On the ones I have I measured up the original spout and discovered the
new ones were the same as far as the seal and seat area, the hole in the
cap was the same as well. Bit of surgery later and the new spout was
secured with the old cap retainer ring.

The newest can I have is one of the dopey lever style and the yellow
ring included did fit it, but the original had a locking tab.

You could also do what I used to do to have a plain cap, cut a piece of
stainless with a holesaw and use an O ring to seal it inside the
original cap.


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Old May 14th 13, 06:27 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to befixed

On Tue, 14 May 2013 11:01:28 -0400, Steve W. wrote:

> They are available in some retail stores as well as online.

I did try the ezpour retail store finder, but there were none
in California when I looked at your original link.

> stainless with a holesaw and use an O ring to seal it inside
> the original cap.


That's an interesting idea. A circular piece of gasoline-stable
sheet material inside the original spout cap. That might work.

That will be plan C, if the caps I ordered don't actually fit.

PS: I can't be the only one who hates those spouts enough to
find a cap that fits, so, if others have tested various
other cap suppliers - now is the time to report it to the
news group.

  #20  
Old May 14th 13, 06:38 PM posted to alt.mechanical.engineering,alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
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Default The Blitz gasoline can - what went wrong - what needs to be fixed

On May 13, 10:17*pm, Brent > wrote:
> On 2013-05-13, Steve W. > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Danny D wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 May 2013 23:21:29 +0000, Danny D wrote:

>
> >>> the one workaround I haven't seen, since the spout is so useless,
> >>> is to replace it with a plain old gasoline cap?

>
> >> I'm not sure if the company will ever get out of chapter 11; but,
> >> if anyone knows of a second source for a plain old gasoline cap,
> >> we'd all benefit.
> >> *http://www.blitzusa.com/chapter11filings.html

>
> >> Any ideas for a plain Jane gasoline cap for the Blitz gas can?

>
> >http://ezpourspout.bluesarthouse.ws/wp/
> > Works great and has fit every can I have.

>
> Because they sell it for containers made -before- 2009. In other words
> it works because it doesn't meet the regs. See it's up to you not use it
> on containers made after 2009....


From the few I have tried, the compliant cans take a different size
cap. They changed the size.

Harry K
 




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