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Hans Mücke wrote:
> > It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say > "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near > hit"), while in english it is called "near miss". Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p |
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Steve wrote:
> Hans Mücke wrote: > > >> >> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say >> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near >> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss". > > > Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p > True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close. I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-) Matt |
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Steve wrote:
> Hans Mücke wrote: > > >> >> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say >> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near >> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss". > > > Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p > And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two > airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog. > Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate > to describe a miss that was pretty close. > > I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-) The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should. A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it is a near hit. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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Bill Putney wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote: > >> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two >> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is >> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is >> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close. >> >> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-) > > > The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is > that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should. > A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get > what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that > you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it > is a near hit. I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
> Bill Putney wrote: > >> Matt Whiting wrote: >> >>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two >>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is >>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is >>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close. >>> >>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-) >> >> >> >> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" >> is that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning >> should. A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something >> (though I get what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is >> used to mean that you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is >> not a near miss - it is a near hit. > > > I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it > be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something > then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a > little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss > distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white. > > > Matt So 'near death' means...? Death is binary. The sun so hot I froze to death, Susanna don't you cry... 8^) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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Bill Putney wrote:
> Steve wrote: > >> Hans Mücke wrote: >> >> >>> >>> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say >>> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near >>> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss". >> >> >> >> Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p >> > > And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled. > Speak for yourself- I always feel very gruntled after a big BBQ dinner :P |
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all dealer for dc thats 5 star can work on them and at least one tech in any 5
star has been a sent to school to be crossfire certifed and again i will say no one wants to work on them all merc. inside and out Sarge wrote: > "mic canic" wrote in message: "If you live in the snow belt it's a summer > car it gets stuck easy works better with the traction control off no spare > but they give ya a can of fix a flat most dealer don't want to work on them > takes for ever to get parts great on gas and quick off the line this is my > personal opinion and I have to work on them to boot." > > Its not that all dealers don't won't to work on them. Only certain dealers > are authorized as service centers for them. My wife works at a dealership. > They do not sell them becuase they cannot service them. She had to turn > down a sale of one and send the customer to another dealership to buy one. > She did get three more sales from the customer. The customer was a casino > looking ot give cars away for the month. > > Sarge |
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oh that reminds me a new 2 seater is due out in 2 years and yes it will have a
hemi Steve wrote: > Norm & Debbie wrote: > > > Group, what are your opinions of the Chrysler Crossfire? I am researching > > insights on the Crossfire for a possible purchase. Thanks! > > > > norm > > > > > > My opinion went up now that they're selling them at bargain basement > prices... when it was a substantial fraction of the cost of a Viper it > didn't impress me AT ALL. |
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Bill Putney" > wrote in message
... > Matt Whiting wrote: >> Bill Putney wrote: >> >>> Matt Whiting wrote: >>> >>>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two >>>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is >>>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is >>>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close. >>>> >>>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though... :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is >>> that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should. >>> A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get >>> what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that >>> you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it >>> is a near hit. >> >> >> I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it >> be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something >> then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a >> little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss >> distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white. >> >> >> Matt > > So 'near death' means...? Death is binary. > Life and death are only separated chronologically. So it's a different dimension than a near miss! The good news is, it's a one-dimensional problem. |
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