Cant wait to see faces of SUV drivers...

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:56:01 GMT, aarcuda69062
> wrote:
>In article >,
> "The Adams Family" > wrote:
>> In reply to the how many gallons of diesel fuel it takes to produce a gallon
>> of ethanol. I am not sure how many gallons they can get from a bushel of
>> corn, but on my farm, I raise about 195 bushel average per acre and burn 4
>> gallons of diesel per acre to get it. I am sure they get several gallons per
>> bushel, so when you look at it there is no comparison. 4 gallons diesel =
>> several hundred ethanol.
>You're right, there is no comparison.
>From the Oregon department of Energy:
>
>The cost of producing ethanol varies with the cost of the
>feedstock used and the scale of production. Approximately 85
>percent of ethanol production capacity in the United States
>relies on corn feedstock. The cost of producing ethanol from corn
>is estimated to be about $1.10 per gallon. Although there is
>currently no commercial production of ethanol from cellulosic
>feedstocks such as agricultural wastes, grasses and wood, the
>estimated production cost using these feedstocks is $1.15 to
>$1.43 per gallon.
>
>Because a gallon of ethanol contains less energy than a gallon of
>gasoline, the production cost of ethanol must be multiplied by a
>factor of 1.5 to make an energy-cost comparison with gasoline.
>This means that if ethanol costs $1.10 per gallon to produce,
>then the effective cost per gallon to equal the energy contained
>in a gallon of gasoline is $1.65. In contrast, the current
>wholesale price of gasoline is about 90 cents per gallon.
>
>The federal motor fuel excise tax on gasohol, a blended fuel of
>10-percent ethanol and 90-percent gasoline, is 5.4 cents less per
>gallon than the tax on straight gasoline. In other words, the
>federal subsidy is 54 cents per gallon of ethanol when the
>ethanol is blended with gasoline. The subsidy makes
>ethanol-blended fuel competitive in the marketplace and
>stimulates the growth of an ethanol production and distribution
>infrastructure.


Anyone have any specs on bio diesel production to fuel consumed
producing it, or how the Professor that was turning pig sh*t into
crude is doing?

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:54:26 +0000, Rooney > wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:08:32 -0500, "Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote:
>
>>Cant wait to see faces of SUV drivers when gas prices creep up to $3 a
>>gallon....tee hee hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa!
>>Sorry....blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa!
>>
>>
>>
>
>'Up' to $3? That would be less than half what we pay here in the UK,
>while still grinning in our SUVs!


Says it all.
And driving through London on a Friday/Saturday night one wonders why
all the people driving gas guzzlers don't get out of them into
efficient SUV's
Though I suppose if one can afford a Roller or Aston Martin, fuel
ceases to become an issue.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:27:36 -0500, "James C. Reeves"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
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>>I doubt that folks that can afford high end SUVs are concerned
>> about the price of fuel they need to run them.
>> Those less fortunate may just have to pay more to use the vehicle
>> they need for their use. My one daughter who has four children
>> put it very well when she said I either
>> take the V8 Tahoe where we all need to go or I have to take the
>> Focus AND the Audi. The two 4cy cars together will use more
>> gas
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> Rooney wrote:
>
>
>That's what happened in the 1970's. People that could afford to drive the
>large "gas guzzlers" no longer could. So most of those big cars were kept
>in the driveway. And one couldn't sell them either since no one wanted
>them.
>
That's when my buddy got his V12 E-Type. It was his smartest purchase
ever.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:10:47 GMT, "Richie" >
wrote:

>tee hee hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa... I can't
>wait to hit you with my SUV's (2) 1 heaver than the other (4800lbs,5200lbs)
>and watch you, maybe I say maybe crawling from the wreckage..tee hee
>hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa.
>
>"Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote in message
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>> Cant wait to see faces of SUV drivers when gas prices creep up to $3
>> a
>> gallon....tee hee hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa!
>> Sorry....blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa!

SUV's can be safe, though not quite as safe as a car of the same
weight, Give me a Bentley any day.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:06:04 -0500, "Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote:

>
>"Richie" > wrote in message
>news:bLd%d.13516$u76.4348@trndny08...
>> tee hee hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa... I can't
>> wait to hit you with my SUV's (2) 1 heaver than the other
>(4800lbs,5200lbs)
>> and watch you, maybe I say maybe crawling from the wreckage..tee hee
>> hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa.
>>
>> "Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Cant wait to see faces of SUV drivers when gas prices creep up to
>$3
>> > a
>> > gallon....tee hee hheeeee heeee haaaa haaaaaa!
>> > Sorry....blllrrrpp...heee hee haaa!
>> >
>> >
>Yeh...right... thats why you drive them at 80 miles an hour 3 inches off
>of someones bumber like a bunch of crazy maniacs, why feeling safe in a
>5000 lb cage, yet endangering other people lives.

If you're doing 80 MPH you'd better be in the middle or fast lane.
And if you're in the Middle or fast lane and someone's on your ass?
PULL OVER

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:54:10 -0500, wrote:

>Me thinks it is more like envy. Same reason the, biggest,
>fanciest or spottiest car is the one that get keyed and not the
>ten year old Ford parked next to it
>
>
>mike hunt
><snip>

Yup that's why the wife's van has been dented and scratched 5x this
past year while my old-slow-bile is as clean and dent free as ever

"Kerouac" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Me thinks it is more like envy. Same reason the, biggest,
> > fanciest or spottiest car is the one that get keyed and not the
> > ten year old Ford parked next to it
>
> You hit on an interesting point. How much of the reason for a vehicles
> purchase is attributed to necessity vs. the reason for status, ("keeping
up
> with the Jones'", impressing one's peers, etc). Regardless of the "size"
of
> the vehicle, I think a lot of people like to blur the line between
> "necessity" and "luxury."
>
>

You seem to have a very communistic point of view, where people should not
want or have more than they "need". Fortunately, in this country(USA), we
are allowed (even encouraged) to live the American dream and buy whatever we
can afford that pleases us. I, for one, don't need you or anyone else to
tell me what type of vehicle I should be driving.
On the other hand, if you wish to buy my vehicles for me, I might
reconsider.
H

the average BMW or Mercedes with proper maintainance will outlast most
any Japanese import (honda, toyota, whatever...). And if this is the
only point of reference, I have seen hundreds of Land Rovers that make
it into the 300k range before needing much major work. That being said
its also pretty common, at least out here in Utah, to see Suburbans in
the 200k mile range. Maybe beat a bit, but still running strong. The
import agrument is a lost cause, its irrelevant, get over it....

Kerouac, While at some point I may agree with you, you should assess
the needs of the drivers of these "SUV"s. Sure there is the average
moron that buys the H2 so that his wife can get groceries in it. And
there is also the moron that buys the Navigator, puts dubs on it and
thinks he has the equivalent of a porsche. However, I would say that
most SUV drivers actually have them for a reason, they travel on dirt
roads occasionally, or they fully off-road sometimes, or maybe they
have something to tow? And as another point on these "gas guzzling"
suvs... well, until you have to pay for the gas, dont worry about it...


Last point though... you say that you are "better educated", correct
grammer would be that you "recieved a better quality of education"..
And since you refer to us as "you losers", I would ask this,
theoretically of course...
"Who is the greater fool (loser), the fool (loser) or the fool (loser)
who argues with him?"

I didn't post the "better educated" comments. Some low life did it under my
name.


"Corey Shuman" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Kerouac, While at some point I may agree with you, you should assess
> the needs of the drivers of these "SUV"s. Sure there is the average
> moron that buys the H2 so that his wife can get groceries in it. And
> there is also the moron that buys the Navigator, puts dubs on it and
> thinks he has the equivalent of a porsche. However, I would say that
> most SUV drivers actually have them for a reason, they travel on dirt
> roads occasionally, or they fully off-road sometimes, or maybe they
> have something to tow? And as another point on these "gas guzzling"
> suvs... well, until you have to pay for the gas, dont worry about it...
>
>
> Last point though... you say that you are "better educated", correct
> grammer would be that you "recieved a better quality of education"..
> And since you refer to us as "you losers", I would ask this,
> theoretically of course...
> "Who is the greater fool (loser), the fool (loser) or the fool (loser)
> who argues with him?"
>