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American Hiroshima
Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, it was written: > > >>The radical Islamists don't and have never wanted >>to make peace with any western culture. They want us dead >>because our freedom is an abomination to them. > > > Yishk. I was pretty sure we were done behaving like five-year-olds and > running around saying stupid **** like "They bombed us because they hate > freedom!" > > Apparently we're not. > > >>true how would that justify anything? Are you aware of Saddam's >>atrocities at all? Why is your outrage as selective as the radical >>Islamist? > > > I don't see *you* getting very upset about very similar atrocities > committed by the Chinese government against its own people. I bet you even > shop regularly at Wal-Mart and buy lots of Chinese products. Why is YOUR > outrage so selective? > I understand your point, but just where are you going to buy the non-Chinese made alternates? The Chinese have already won that one! -- PC Paul Trip pics at: http://photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart "To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt |
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> >>Are you aware of Saddam's atrocities at all? Why is your outrage as > >>selective as the radical Islamist? > > I don't see *you* getting very upset about very similar atrocities > > committed by the Chinese government against its own people. I bet you > > even shop regularly at Wal-Mart and buy lots of Chinese products. Why > > is YOUR outrage so selective? > I understand your point, but just where are you going to buy the > non-Chinese made alternates? I manage to do just that without too much effort on a regular basis. I can't even remember the last time I set foot in a Wal-Mart. It's not all that hard all the time. |
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"Robert J. Kolker" > wrote in
: > Daniel J. Stern wrote: >> >> So do they. War of attrition. > > Which Moslem country has H-bombs and the means to deliver them? > > We have between 10 and 20 thousand warheads deliverable anywhere on > earth in a matter of minutes. What do the Jihadis have? First,not all of those 20,000 warheads are "deliverable in a matter of minutes",most of them are gravity bombs and artillery shells that would require many hours or even days to deliver. IIRC,we only have a few thousand ICBMs,and I believe a max of 10 warheads apiece.IIRC,we do not have nuclear cruise missiles anymore. How do you FIND the Jihadis,they are global? > > Bob Kolker > >> Pakistan (Moslem) has atomic bombs,perhaps H-bombs too. Delivery by cargo ship would be effective. They also have modern aircraft,and could buy more from the Russians easily enough. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Phil Scott" > wrote in
: > > "Robert J. Kolker" > wrote in message > ... >> Daniel J. Stern wrote: >> > >> > So do they. War of attrition. >> >> Which Moslem country has H-bombs and the means to deliver > them? >> >> We have between 10 and 20 thousand warheads deliverable > anywhere on >> earth in a matter of minutes. What do the Jihadis have? > > > Residence in the US, burried nukes on US soil and the > skill to mix of a few million tons ebola toxin and pump it > into US water mains...for starters...and that would be *just > retaliation too. Ebola is not that hardy of a virus;it would die just from the chlorine in our water supplies. "buried nukes" is highly unlikely from a Moslem nation;they would be reluctant to place them so far out of their direct control;they would have to be pre-sited,and they might be discovered and traced back to them. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Vito" > wrote in
: > "Phil Scott" > wrote >> Well fine... and it your remark is not totally accurate..its >> sufficiently close to warrant concern. >> >> So...given that what do you think we should do about >> it... > > We need to begin a massive propaganda campaign to "educate" > (discredit) Islam. That would be easy. >> >> So is provoking these people a good idea? You know the 911 >> attack was in response to decades of covert CIA crap run on >> them it was not unprovoked... > > I know that the 9/11 attack was in response to "infidels invading the > holy peninsula to kill Muslims" back in Desert Storm then not leaving. > That why the perps said they did it. Better read these articles; http://nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200507150804.asp http://www.townhall.com/columnists/m...20050715.shtml for starters. Both sites have more good material on why we're warring with Islam and about the Iraq War. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Vito" > wrote in
: > "Phil Scott" > wrote >> You are spinning again... you will do better then to say >> who's fault the 911 attack was, and say why and how it was >> unprovoked. Now that would be helpful and informative. > > It's "what" rather than "who" and the "what" is religious zealotery. A > pack of mindless zealots went to Afghanistan to help fight the > Soviets. Whether they helped or not is conjectural, but with the > occupation over their leaders desperately needed a new enemy to keep > al Qaeda together. They offered to come home and fight Saddam (a > secular dictator) in Kuwait Hardly;AQ is against the sheiks and emirs of both Saudi Arabia and Kuwait,that are NOT "true Islamic governments". AQ did have links to Saddam,though. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Phil Scott" > wrote in
: > > "Rainbow Pirate" > wrote in > message > news:1121455447.d1f8bb7bb9c17fd9791638c1c922413f@b ubbanews... >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:55:45 GMT, Bishop wrote: >> >> > On 15-Jul-2005, "Vito" > wrote: >> > >> >>> What will you do about the 20 million living spread > out >> >>> across the US and inside our US corporations here and > abroad? >> >> >> >>> Can you imagine the fall out...perhaps 15 gallons > botulism toxin >> >>> released into a major US cities water supply? Made a >> >>> bathtub by anyone who wanted to. >> >> >> >> So what is your solution Phil? Should we just roll over > and accept a Taliban >> >> like world government? >> > >> > The left-loons don't have solutions. They are, however, > the biggest >> > bitchers and whiners in the country. >> >> >> I have noticed that. Admittedly, some things in Iraq arent > going too hot, >> however, my friends on the ground over there say it isnt > nearly as bad as >> the ****ed up media wants you to believe, theres a lot of > good stuff >> happening too. >> >> Point is, the left continually points fingers. No problem > there, it is >> their right to do so, and some would say, their duty. > Problem is, none of >> these people EVER have a better idea. Nobody. Ever. I've > asked repeatedly >> on many different forums where these types seem to breed. > Every time you >> ask for a better idea, you can hear the crickets chirp. > > > There have been countless solutions available for > decades...the chinese have implimented theirs... we in the US > after reaching our peak of decency and advance in the > 40's-70's have chosen to behave like morons. > > not impressive you see. > > > Your notion that no one on the left or middle or moderate > right offers a solution demonstrates that you dont pay > attention to congress at all... you apparently just want to > ignore than...then when someone like me posts you want all > 90,000 pages of congressional testimony typed up for you...so > you can ignore it. > > > Here is a link that you can probe broadly with *causes..once > you know what the causes are.... then you find solutions. You > may not be aware of the causes... the following links to > articles by current and past FBI people and police, senators > and cogressmen and congressional testimony on why we are > having these troubles. > > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ex.shtml#drugs > > > > The fact is we invaded Iraq for totally bogus reasons, Wrong. http://nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200507150804.asp > and > proved that by our prior support of saddam as he gassed the > kurds...did you know that? What bulls..t. > Nahh. Then we encouraged saddam > to go into Kuwait (with Albrights visit)..as an excuse to > attack when he did. More BS. > > > So now we have ****ed off islam and they are after us. Wrong again. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Phil Scott" > wrote in
: > > These people had not come after us...we went after them..then > they retaliated... No. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/m...20050715.shtml -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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"Phil Scott" > wrote in
: > > Human nature...it looks like we will go on killing each > other by the tens of millions for some time. I wouldnt call > it sane however and it sure as hell is not decent. At least until all nations are governed democratically,leaders fairly chosen by their citizens.(many so-called democratic elections have either one candidate or selected candidates,and any others are repressed) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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