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  #21  
Old July 22nd 05, 05:54 PM
J Strickland
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4.10 and 4.11 are functional equivelents. That means they are the same ...




"Patrick Ô¿Ô" > wrote in message
...
> My Rubi came with 4.11 gears. It is a 2005 Unlimited Rubicon.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
>
> "J Strickland" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Rubis come with the 4.0L and 4.10 gears.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I thought so, but the 4.10's threw me off.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "JimG" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Carl, the Rubicon only comes with the 4.0L
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JimG
>>>> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>>
>>>> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>>
>>>> "Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > I'm pushing 33's thru 4.10's with my 4cyl on my 89 YJ. Flat roads are
>>>> > no
>>>> > problem, large hills slow me down to about 55mph or less. The 6cyl
>>>> > thru
>>>> > 4.10's will fare much better. Which engine do you have?
>>>> >
>>>> > Carl
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Fred Garvin" > wrote in message
>>>> > news >>>> >> I'm planning to put 33" MTRs on my Rubicon. I love the way that it
>>> will
>>>> >> idle up a hill with the 31s. Will it still do that with 33s and
>>>> >> 4.10s?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Fred
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



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  #22  
Old July 22nd 05, 05:59 PM
Jerry Bransford
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J Strickland wrote:
> 4.10 and 4.11 are functional equivelents. That means they are the same ...


Exactly. And they are only off that .01 because of the difference in
front and rear ring gear diameters. The .01 is insignificant offroad.

Jerry

>
> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>My Rubi came with 4.11 gears. It is a 2005 Unlimited Rubicon.
>>
>>Patrick
>>Ô¿Ô
>>
>>
>>"J Strickland" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Rubis come with the 4.0L and 4.10 gears.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>I thought so, but the 4.10's threw me off.
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"JimG" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>Carl, the Rubicon only comes with the 4.0L
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>>>4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>>>D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>>>
>>>>>00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>>>4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>>>33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>>>D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>>>
>>>>>"Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm pushing 33's thru 4.10's with my 4cyl on my 89 YJ. Flat roads are
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>problem, large hills slow me down to about 55mph or less. The 6cyl
>>>>>>thru
>>>>>>4.10's will fare much better. Which engine do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Fred Garvin" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news >>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm planning to put 33" MTRs on my Rubicon. I love the way that it
>>>>
>>>>will
>>>>
>>>>>>>idle up a hill with the 31s. Will it still do that with 33s and
>>>>>>>4.10s?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
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  #23  
Old July 22nd 05, 06:37 PM
jeff
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>
> J Strickland wrote:
>
>> 4.10 and 4.11 are functional equivelents. That means they are the same
>> ...

>
>
> Exactly. And they are only off that .01 because of the difference in
> front and rear ring gear diameters. The .01 is insignificant offroad.
>


A 4.10 gear set has 41 teeth on the ring and 10 teeth on the pinion, and
a 4.11 has 37 and 9. Roughly a 1/4"/rev rolling distance difference with
33s. Close enough.

--
jeff
  #24  
Old July 22nd 05, 10:20 PM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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Hi Steve,
Geez, I didn't catch the tooth change the last time you showed me
this Japanese crap.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Mr. Strickland is correct. The Rubicon Dana 44 TruLok carrier is an odd
> duck with a 'thick' ring gear (no carrier break), hence a smaller 10
> tooth pinion on a 41 tooth ring:
>
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/slides/IMG_7878.html
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org

  #25  
Old July 22nd 05, 10:25 PM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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One inch.
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jeff wrote:
>
> A 4.10 gear set has 41 teeth on the ring and 10 teeth on the pinion, and
> a 4.11 has 37 and 9. Roughly a 1/4"/rev rolling distance difference with
> 33s. Close enough.
>
> --
> jeff

  #26  
Old July 22nd 05, 11:08 PM
RoyJ
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Back to school Bill.

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:
> One inch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> jeff wrote:
>
>>A 4.10 gear set has 41 teeth on the ring and 10 teeth on the pinion, and
>>a 4.11 has 37 and 9. Roughly a 1/4"/rev rolling distance difference with
>>33s. Close enough.
>>
>>--
>>jeff

  #27  
Old July 22nd 05, 11:12 PM
Patrick Ô¿Ô
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Ok. thanks. Now I know what gears I really have

Patrick
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"Steve" > wrote in message
news:lJ4Ee.166535$on1.22715@clgrps13...
> Mr. Strickland is correct. The Rubicon Dana 44 TruLok carrier is an odd
> duck with a 'thick' ring gear (no carrier break), hence a smaller 10 tooth
> pinion on a 41 tooth ring:
>
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/slides/IMG_7878.html
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> yes, and now you really are nitpicking.
>>
>> But for the sake of completeness.
>>
>> The Dana 44 came with a 4.10 ish ratio of 45/11 or 4.09
>> The Dana 30 with 41/10 or 4.10 exactly
>> The Dana 35 came with 37/9 or 4.11.
>>
>> So whatever Jeep advertised the Dana 30/35 combo to be (4.10 I think)
>> they would have been wrong for one axle.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>In other words it's false advertising on the part of Jeep.
>>>
>>>Patrick
>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>
>>>
>>>"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Nick picking, the Dana 44 is a 4.09 ratio, as it's tooth count is
>>>>11 and 45: http://www.billhughes.com/tooth_count.txt
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

>>>>
>>>>"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>My Rubi came with 4.11 gears. It is a 2005 Unlimited Rubicon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Patrick
>>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>
>>>

>>


  #28  
Old July 22nd 05, 11:19 PM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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33" diameter, times Pi (3.14159) for the circumference, times .01
equals the change in inches.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

RoyJ wrote:
>
> Back to school Bill.
>
> L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:
> > One inch.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> > jeff wrote:
> >
> >>A 4.10 gear set has 41 teeth on the ring and 10 teeth on the pinion, and
> >>a 4.11 has 37 and 9. Roughly a 1/4"/rev rolling distance difference with
> >>33s. Close enough.
> >>
> >>--
> >>jeff

  #29  
Old July 23rd 05, 12:08 AM
Dave Milne
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no, 33 x pi = 103.67" for the circumference.
Difference is between 4.11 and 4.10, so multiply that by 0.01/4.11 = 0.25"
as Jeff said.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> 33" diameter, times Pi (3.14159) for the circumference, times .01
> equals the change in inches.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Back to school Bill.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:
> > > One inch.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> > >
> > > jeff wrote:
> > >
> > >>A 4.10 gear set has 41 teeth on the ring and 10 teeth on the pinion,

and
> > >>a 4.11 has 37 and 9. Roughly a 1/4"/rev rolling distance difference

with
> > >>33s. Close enough.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>jeff



  #30  
Old July 23rd 05, 01:04 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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Right. Somehow I jumped to .01 as being one percent.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> no, 33 x pi = 103.67" for the circumference.
> Difference is between 4.11 and 4.10, so multiply that by 0.01/4.11 = 0.25"
> as Jeff said.

 




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