SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE

In article >,
says...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
> > wrote:

> >In article om>,
> says...
> >>
> >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
> >>
[snips]

> hi all,
> 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of
> stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined
> (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion
> resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic
> applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches.
>
> most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS.
>
> it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a
> big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ.
>
> reboot

I use 304 for my chopper parts and they seem to hold a polish. I googled
Kentrol + 304 and found Kentrol uses a lot of 304 stainless. I just
thought I'd say if you are looking for stainless parts and they don't
state "304" stainless you might want to stay clear of them so you don't
run into the same problem Mike did. 316 is another good alloy of
stainless...if you ever see parts made from it.

316 Stainless is the alloy most used on the parts we make for the local
shipyard here, obviously for corrosion resistance. The corrosion
resistance is superior to most other stainless alloys, but expect to pay
for it. Not only is the metal more expensive, it is a bitch to machine
compared to 303 or 304. This stuff will wear out carbide tooling in our
CNC lathe easily 5 times faster than 303/304 will.

Chris

FrankW wrote:
> When I was into salt water aquariums I was looking
> up Stainless steel for use with them.
> If I remember correctly
> 304 stainless will last 10 years before it "starts" to corrode.
> 316 stainless will last 100 years before it starts to corrode
> submersed in sal****er.
>
> Heatwave wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> In article om>,
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>>>>>
>>
>> [snips]
>>
>>
>>> hi all,
>>> 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of
>>> stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined
>>> (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion
>>> resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic
>>> applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches.
>>>
>>> most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS.
>>>
>>> it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a
>>> big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ.
>>>
>>> reboot
>>
>>
>> I use 304 for my chopper parts and they seem to hold a polish. I
>> googled Kentrol + 304 and found Kentrol uses a lot of 304 stainless. I
>> just thought I'd say if you are looking for stainless parts and they
>> don't state "304" stainless you might want to stay clear of them so
>> you don't run into the same problem Mike did. 316 is another good
>> alloy of stainless...if you ever see parts made from it.
>

When I was into salt water aquariums I was looking
up Stainless steel for use with them.
If I remember correctly
304 stainless will last 10 years before it "starts" to corrode.
316 stainless will last 100 years before it starts to corrode
submersed in sal****er.

Heatwave wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
> wrote:
>
>
>>>In article om>,
says...
>>>
>>>>Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>>>>
>
> [snips]
>
>
>>hi all,
>>304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of
>>stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined
>>(especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion
>>resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic
>>applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches.
>>
>>most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS.
>>
>>it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a
>>big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ.
>>
>>reboot
>
>
> I use 304 for my chopper parts and they seem to hold a polish. I googled
> Kentrol + 304 and found Kentrol uses a lot of 304 stainless. I just
> thought I'd say if you are looking for stainless parts and they don't
> state "304" stainless you might want to stay clear of them so you don't
> run into the same problem Mike did. 316 is another good alloy of
> stainless...if you ever see parts made from it.

On Apr 10, 1:32 pm, "Tracie" > wrote:
> I am going to be replacing the windshield hinges, upper and lower door
> hinges, and hood hinges on my 2006WranglerX (just to prevent rust in
> the future). I am torn between getting the 304 stainless steel with
> the high polished mirror finish or the black chrome finish over the
> 304 stainless steel. My jeep is the Midnight Blue metallic (navy
> blue) color. Which one would look better? I also am going to be
> putting on nerf bars (preferably stainless) and would also like to
> install the euro guard headlight/side marker/parking/tail light guards
> but I am not sure which color of these yet (depends on the color of
> all the hinges). Anyone have any suggestions or know anything about
> the black chrome (i.e. does it flake, chip, peel, etc.)? Any comments
> would be greatly appreciated. THANKS


I own the same vehicle. Go all out and buy a grille cover and vent
cover. I also bought a new front bumper with the plastic inserts for
the ends..new tire cover..new bikini top and deck cover. Oh yes..and
new tow hooks. I am not going to be doing any serious off-roading
until my Jeep gets old but to do trail rides in Ct. you must have tow
hooks. Oh...and some Back Off mud guards.

In article >, says...
> 316 Stainless is the alloy most used on the parts we make for the local
> shipyard here, obviously for corrosion resistance. The corrosion
> resistance is superior to most other stainless alloys, but expect to pay
> for it. Not only is the metal more expensive, it is a bitch to machine
> compared to 303 or 304. This stuff will wear out carbide tooling in our
> CNC lathe easily 5 times faster than 303/304 will.
>
> Chris
>

Well 316 is also termed "marine grade" stainless. For production its
best to "investment cast" 316 as close to its final shape as you can and
then machine it the rest of the way to save tooling. You might even have
sink drains in your home made with 316. For Jeep parts though the most
you will probably find 316 in is nuts, bolts, washers, and Shackles.

Another thing I was real hot to put stainless on the Jeep and "prevent
rust", but now that I have the color mismatched half doors (it came with
full doors) that doesn't seem so important anymore. Driving it, that's
what's cool.

Earle

"Heatwave" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
> > 316 Stainless is the alloy most used on the parts we make for the local
> > shipyard here, obviously for corrosion resistance. The corrosion
> > resistance is superior to most other stainless alloys, but expect to pay
> > for it. Not only is the metal more expensive, it is a bitch to machine
> > compared to 303 or 304. This stuff will wear out carbide tooling in our
> > CNC lathe easily 5 times faster than 303/304 will.
> >
> > Chris
> >
>
> Well 316 is also termed "marine grade" stainless. For production its
> best to "investment cast" 316 as close to its final shape as you can and
> then machine it the rest of the way to save tooling. You might even have
> sink drains in your home made with 316. For Jeep parts though the most
> you will probably find 316 in is nuts, bolts, washers, and Shackles.

Earle Horton wrote:
> stainless. You will love them. Much better than the Allen head joke screws
> you get with stainless parts.
>
> There is no such thing as "black chrome". The black hinges and such are
> powder coated. This stuff chips and comes off unless it is primed right at
> the factory, and sometimes even then.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Earle
>


Actually, yes there is. While the hinges and such in question might be
powder coated, black chrome does in fact exist.

"Tom Greening" > wrote in message
...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > stainless. You will love them. Much better than the Allen head joke
screws
> > you get with stainless parts.
> >
> > There is no such thing as "black chrome". The black hinges and such are
> > powder coated. This stuff chips and comes off unless it is primed right
at
> > the factory, and sometimes even then.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Earle
> >
>
>
> Actually, yes there is. While the hinges and such in question might be
> powder coated, black chrome does in fact exist.

Not in 4wd parts catalogs though.

Thanks, didn't know that.

Earle

Doors? Real Jeeps don't have no stinkin' doors!
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
http://www.billhughes.com/


"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
. ..
> Another thing I was real hot to put stainless on the Jeep and "prevent
> rust", but now that I have the color mismatched half doors (it came with
> full doors) that doesn't seem so important anymore. Driving it, that's
> what's cool.
>
> Earle



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On Apr 11, 8:46 pm, "Earle Horton" > wrote:
> "Tom Greening" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > stainless. You will love them. Much better than the Allen head joke
> screws
> > > you get with stainless parts.
>
> > > There is no such thing as "black chrome". The black hinges and such are
> > > powder coated. This stuff chips and comes off unless it is primed right
> at
> > > the factory, and sometimes even then.
>
> > > Good luck.
>
> > > Earle
>
> > Actually, yes there is. While the hinges and such in question might be
> > powder coated, black chrome does in fact exist.
>
> Not in 4wd parts catalogs though.
>
> Thanks, didn't know that.
>
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Yes it is. I found it in JC Whitney