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The Germans can do it. Why can't we?



 
 
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  #21  
Old August 11th 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
N8N
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?


Eeyore wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
> > Our interstates should be like this. According to everything I have
> > read, their accident rates are no higher than ours. They may even be
> > lower.

>
> *May* be lower ! LMAO ! The US accident rates are atrociously high.
>
> Take a look at this. It shows the *cost* of road deaths for the USA to be 4.6%
> of GDP. The highest figure in the *world* !
> http://www.factbook.net/EGRF_Economic_costs.htm
>
> The German road death rate is about half the US rate and in the UK it's ~ 1/3rd
> your rate.
>
> Better driver education, less aggressive driving and better road layout all
> plays a prt.
>
> Graham


Our interstates are, for the most part, perfectly adequate. It's the
*drivers* that are the problem; but unfortunately until the majority of
the public has the will to change things, driver's ed in the US will
continue to consist of "don't speed, don't drive drunk, and wear your
seat belt."

nate

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  #22  
Old August 11th 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Arif Khokar[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?

Brent P wrote:
> In article >, OM wrote:


> >>> Wake up! Time is now to ditch the protective and restrictive laws and to
> >>> open the US market fully!


> >> preaching to choir.


> > So I take it you don't care about what is going on with US and what is
> > happening with your government.


> What is your malfunction?


My guess is that he doesn't understand the meaning of the colloquialism
"preaching to the choir."

  #23  
Old August 11th 06, 03:36 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent P[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?

In article >, Eeyore wrote:
>
>
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> I saw all sorts of vehicles on the roads and I wasn't there long. While
>> there weren't any rusty heaps like I see in chicago, I saw several US
>> vehicles. Including an early 80s GM Fbody and an early 80s/late 70s GM
>> station wagon. These cars would have been pushing 20 years old at the
>> time.

>
> So what ? Age isn't an issue. Cars have to be maintained well to pass their annual
> inspections.


Those are the cars I saw and when I saw them. read the post I was
replying to that implied US made cars wouldn't even make it on the road
there new.


  #24  
Old August 11th 06, 03:36 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent P[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?

In article >, Eeyore wrote:
>
>
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> European
>> makes however for the USDOT just have to be altered to downgrade their
>> headlamps.

>
> Tell me about your inferior headlights please.


Google daniel stern's posts on the subject.


  #25  
Old August 11th 06, 04:22 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
bernard farquart
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?


"Brent P" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >, OM wrote:
>>
>>
>> Brent P wrote:
>>> In article >, OM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wake up! Time is now to ditch the protective and restrictive laws and
>>>> to
>>>> open the US market fully!
>>>
>>> preaching to choir.
>>>
>>>

>> So I take it you don't care about what is going on with US and what is
>> happening with your government. Fine, suit yourself when the shadow
>> government takes over and imposes the martial law on the American
>> population. Don't believe me? Google 'coup d'etat' and see what is
>> happening with the US...
>>
>> So utterly sad. Americans don't know what's in store for themselves in
>> the coming time if they don't wake up.

>
> What is your malfunction?


It would appear to be "reading for comprehension"

Bernard



  #26  
Old August 11th 06, 05:19 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Eeyore[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?



N8N wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Rob wrote:
> >
> > > Our interstates should be like this. According to everything I have
> > > read, their accident rates are no higher than ours. They may even be
> > > lower.

> >
> > *May* be lower ! LMAO ! The US accident rates are atrociously high.
> >
> > Take a look at this. It shows the *cost* of road deaths for the USA to be 4.6%
> > of GDP. The highest figure in the *world* !
> > http://www.factbook.net/EGRF_Economic_costs.htm
> >
> > The German road death rate is about half the US rate and in the UK it's ~ 1/3rd
> > your rate.
> >
> > Better driver education, less aggressive driving and better road layout all
> > plays a prt.
> >
> > Graham

>
> Our interstates are, for the most part, perfectly adequate. It's the
> *drivers* that are the problem; but unfortunately until the majority of
> the public has the will to change things, driver's ed in the US will
> continue to consist of "don't speed, don't drive drunk, and wear your
> seat belt."


The large scale use of roundabouts in Europe also stops most T-bone accidents.

Graham

  #27  
Old August 11th 06, 05:21 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Eeyore[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?



Brent P wrote:

> In article >, Eeyore wrote:
> >
> > Brent P wrote:
> >
> >> I saw all sorts of vehicles on the roads and I wasn't there long. While
> >> there weren't any rusty heaps like I see in chicago, I saw several US
> >> vehicles. Including an early 80s GM Fbody and an early 80s/late 70s GM
> >> station wagon. These cars would have been pushing 20 years old at the
> >> time.

> >
> > So what ? Age isn't an issue. Cars have to be maintained well to pass their annual
> > inspections.

>
> Those are the cars I saw and when I saw them. read the post I was
> replying to that implied US made cars wouldn't even make it on the road
> there new.


A number are on sale here. I suppose they're modified to meet our standards.

Graham


  #28  
Old August 11th 06, 06:42 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.road,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime
bill
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend managed to put the following
"thought" together despite ample evidence of severe mental retardation:
> You don't HAVE to speed just cause others do.


If there was no speed limit on Interstates where it's prudent to remove
such restrictions, they wouldn't be speeding, would they?
THINK!

  #29  
Old August 11th 06, 06:59 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Floyd Rogers[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?

"Eeyore" > wrote
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article >, Eeyore wrote:


>> Those are the cars I saw and when I saw them. read the post I was
>> replying to that implied US made cars wouldn't even make it on the road
>> there new.

>
> A number are on sale here. I suppose they're modified to meet our
> standards.


Exactly. For instance, Chrysler minivans (as opposed to Dodge/Plymouth)
have dual headlights (low-beam + projector high beam) so that they meet
EC standards. Dodge Caravans and Plymouth Voyagers were never
exported, only Town & Country. Chrysler's 300 was engineered specifically
to be less than a 6 (?) meters long for similar reasons.

FloydR


  #30  
Old August 11th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent P[_1_]
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Default The Germans can do it. Why can't we?

In article >, Floyd Rogers wrote:

>> A number are on sale here. I suppose they're modified to meet our
>> standards.

>
> Exactly. For instance, Chrysler minivans (as opposed to Dodge/Plymouth)
> have dual headlights (low-beam + projector high beam) so that they meet
> EC standards.


There is some overlap in the two headlamp standards given what I learned
from Daniel's posts.


 




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