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miker wrote:
> Naw, I think he just knows a jerk when he sees one. > > miker Welcome to r.a.m.m., TRCSr. ;-) No matter how badly Davoud was or was not acting while overseas, he probably could not have given the people there much worse of an impression of Americans in general than what it actually true. Pat |
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On 2009-07-27, pws > wrote:
> No matter how badly Davoud was or was not acting while > overseas, he probably could not have given the people there > much worse of an impression of Americans in general than what > it actually true. Well, geez, nobody wants to be judged on the way they really are. Thats the whole point of having publicists, PR people, and diplomats. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! The PINK SOCKS were at ORIGINALLY from 1952!! visi.com But they went to MARS around 1953!! |
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> Well, geez, nobody wants to be judged on the way they really > are. Thats the whole point of having publicists, PR people, > and diplomats. I never thought about it that way. I would not like to be judged by the way I really am, now that is a scary thought. This is my nice side on r.a.m.m. Not saying Davoud isn't a jerk, nor will I defend myself against such a label. I am just afraid that he did more to get them prepared for the way it really is rather than giving any false impressions. Of course, this assumes that the Davoud has actually been more than 10 miles from his place of birth. I am not saying he hasn't been overseas in a diplomatic position, but almost anybody can be almost anybody, online, with a supply of pictures, a good memory and a decent imagination. ;-) Pat |
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pws wrote:
> Welcome to r.a.m.m., TRCSr. ;-) r.a.m.m.m. rammm! |
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On 2009-07-27, pws > wrote:
> I am not saying he hasn't been overseas in a diplomatic > position, but almost anybody can be almost anybody, online, > with a supply of pictures, a good memory and a decent > imagination. ;-) "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" http://www.cartoonbank.com/item/22230 -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Is this TERMINAL fun? at visi.com |
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pws > wrote:
> but almost anybody can be almost anybody, online, with a supply of > pictures, a good memory and a decent imagination. ;-) True, I'm really Jimmy Hoffa but I use a nym because people keep trying to find me... <GD&R> -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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Grant Edwards:
> >> I hope you weren't representing my country while behaving like > >> such a jerk. Davoud: > > Now that is funny! May I take it that you don't have a great deal of > > experience in the U.S. Foreign Service, and in the finer points of > > conducting foreign affairs in general? miker: > Naw, I think he just knows a jerk when he sees one. I'm not absolutely sure that's it. Firstly, he hasn't "seen" me and he knows nothing about me. Secondly, he really doesn't know about life in the Foreign Service, which is another way of saying that he's commenting on something he knows nothing about. You would never do that. And that's why I found his remark to be so funny. That, and the amazing fact that, by implication, he has led a Christ-like life since birth, so utterly pure that he has the brass to condemn someone for something so petty as a traffic citation. At least that's what I must assume; the alternative is that Mr. Edwards is a hypocrite, and since I don't know him, I wouldn't call him that. Ignoring a traffic ticket isn't a sin, even in the so-called Holy Land; just a misdemeanor for non-diplomats and SOP for diplomats. I hope Mr. Edwards doesn't lose any sleep over this, but diplomats from every nation and in every nation are disregarding traffic tickets by the thousands, every day. Incidentally, I got a citation once in Asia for I-know-not-what. The chief of the police station nearest the Embassy was a pal of mine, so I decided to stop in and say hello and pay the ticket. The entire police station was aroar with laughter; no one--no one--had ever come in to pay a fine before and they had no procedure for handling such a payment. Bribes and extortion, yes. Citations, no. Davoud -- usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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pws:
> > No matter how badly Davoud was or was not acting while > > overseas, he probably could not have given the people there > > much worse of an impression of Americans in general than what > > it actually true. Bingo. Ignored traffic citations come way behind untrimmed ear hairs in their importance in international relations. Grant Edwards: > Well, geez, nobody wants to be judged on the way they really > are. Thats the whole point of having publicists, PR people, > and diplomats. You are correct to the extremely narrow limit of your knowledge of the subject. One of the imperatives that every American diplomat follows is to present the U.S., its people, its government, its way of life, in the best possible light. Do you think we go around bragging about bogus wars and the fact that we are the only country in the civilized world without national health care!? These things have to have a bit of spin on them. We may say, for example that the U.S. is making progress in reducing our infant mortality rate, but we we're not going to blurt out that we're only #37 in the world in infant mortality, two steps behind Cuba. Likewise, life expectancy at birth. Do you expect me, as an advocate for the American Way, to go bragging that we're 45th, behind Bosnia and Jordan, and more than six years behind the leaders!? I will proudly say that we have one of the highest literacy rates on Earth. I will not mention that we are, however, in a tie for 17th place, lagging behind, among others, Cuba, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. As I said, when you talk about diplomats you have no idea what you are talking about. Stick with what you know and you'll do fine. I'm sure that you are a smart person, but anyone can look silly if they begin to pontificate outside their field of expertise. Davoud -- usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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> True, I'm really Jimmy Hoffa but I use a nym because people keep trying
> to find me... <GD&R> Here, Jimmy, I'd like to present you with this bucket of cement in the best possible light... your shoelaces will never come untied again! miker |
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On Jul 26, 7:28*pm, Domagoj Bagaric > wrote:
> TRCSr wrote: > > the group. I hope I can get as much useful information from this > > group. > > kudos! > > well since it's brand spanking new there's only 1 thing you need to know: > > 1) top down (and don't forget to put in some gas once in a while) > > happy motoring! It's nice to see the warm welcome TRCSr received. I also just purchased an NC (GT) with a PRHC (that's faster than saying power rectractable hardtop). I'm still on my first tank of gas and well into the process of becoming one with the 6 speed manual. At first blush, there's really no significant change that I could imagine for this car, so I would have to agree that it's been well thought out, having evolved from the already successful NA and NBs, and without too many marketing gimmicks. One negative observation (barely a complaint) is the cupholder. The choices are from bad (in the door where nothing will fit) to worse (in the centre console and in the way of every shift). My choices seem to be a) give up my morning coffee, b) buy or build a short insulated cup which will at the height of the centre console and c) install a cupholder I can reach (and would not be in the way) like this one: http://www.miatamania.com/Shop/ViewP...eIndexID=78085 Any insight would be appreciated as I would like to bring my coffee with me again sometime. ps: to XS11E, my other 2 seater is an XS1100S ;~) NetMax |
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