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  #51  
Old July 19th 05, 01:17 PM
jeff
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We called them "gravel-back" mechanics, although I've learned and now
carry a large cardboard box folded flat in the back.
--
jeff

Billy Ray wrote:
> A large part of the problem nowadays is that garages no longer have
> mechanics, they rely on 'technicians'.
>
> In my opinion an old fashioned mechanic that can tear anything mechanical
> apart and fix it in an unheated garage with none of the proper tools is
> better than a box full of technicians...

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  #52  
Old July 19th 05, 02:59 PM
Peter Pontbriand
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The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and it was
just fine when I removed it.

/Peter

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Mike,
> I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
> >
> > Mike



  #53  
Old July 19th 05, 05:10 PM
Mike Romain
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Will that yoke physically fit then?

Mike

Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and it was
> just fine when I removed it.
>
> /Peter
>
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Mike,
> > I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
> > >
> > > Mike

  #54  
Old July 19th 05, 06:59 PM
Peter Pontbriand
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Which yoke are you referring to?

The axle had a normal u-joint style pinion yoke on it when it was under my
TJ. The Grand Cherokee has a wacky front drive shaft with a weird CV joint
at the front that need a different pinion yoke. When I slung the axle under
the GC, the TJ pinion yoke was removed (actually that was done well before I
started this particular axle swap) and I replaced it with the weird Grand
Cherokee yoke. The pinion shaft diameter and spline count is identical on
both axles, as is the seal. The depth of the splined part of both yokes
appears to be the same too. I have no idea if there are actually any
differenced inside of the seal.

I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to think
resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
deal. I just hope my test driving, and the drive to the dealer on Thursday,
won't have ruined anything expensive to replace. I'll drive there at a speed
wheere there's no noticeable noise, approximately 70 km/h seems to be good
for that.

Regardless, I'm not willingly going back into the superheated garage for a
while. Heck, I'm sitting in the basement as I type this and sweat is still
dripping on my glasses. Why does global warming only affect summertime
temperatures up here in Canada anyway?

/Peter

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Will that yoke physically fit then?
>
> Mike
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and it

was
> > just fine when I removed it.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
> > > >
> > > > Mike



  #55  
Old July 19th 05, 07:26 PM
Mike Romain
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Tell me about it, I am trying to convince my wife I would be better off
medically if I was sitting at the side of the lake up north of you on
the trail we run where I can jump in to keep cool. Don't need to be
back until next Wednesday....

And yes, that was the yoke I was thinking about.

Mike

Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> Which yoke are you referring to?
>
> The axle had a normal u-joint style pinion yoke on it when it was under my
> TJ. The Grand Cherokee has a wacky front drive shaft with a weird CV joint
> at the front that need a different pinion yoke. When I slung the axle under
> the GC, the TJ pinion yoke was removed (actually that was done well before I
> started this particular axle swap) and I replaced it with the weird Grand
> Cherokee yoke. The pinion shaft diameter and spline count is identical on
> both axles, as is the seal. The depth of the splined part of both yokes
> appears to be the same too. I have no idea if there are actually any
> differenced inside of the seal.
>
> I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to think
> resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
> deal. I just hope my test driving, and the drive to the dealer on Thursday,
> won't have ruined anything expensive to replace. I'll drive there at a speed
> wheere there's no noticeable noise, approximately 70 km/h seems to be good
> for that.
>
> Regardless, I'm not willingly going back into the superheated garage for a
> while. Heck, I'm sitting in the basement as I type this and sweat is still
> dripping on my glasses. Why does global warming only affect summertime
> temperatures up here in Canada anyway?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Will that yoke physically fit then?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > >
> > > The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and it

> was
> > > just fine when I removed it.
> > >
> > > /Peter
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike

  #56  
Old July 19th 05, 11:19 PM
Billy Ray
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Wouldn't you be better off, medically, if you were floating on a raft in the
shade with a cool drink in hand to keep the weight off your back and you
hydrated?


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Tell me about it, I am trying to convince my wife I would be better off
> medically if I was sitting at the side of the lake up north of you on
> the trail we run where I can jump in to keep cool. Don't need to be
> back until next Wednesday....
>
> And yes, that was the yoke I was thinking about.
>
> Mike
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>>
>> Which yoke are you referring to?
>>
>> The axle had a normal u-joint style pinion yoke on it when it was under
>> my
>> TJ. The Grand Cherokee has a wacky front drive shaft with a weird CV
>> joint
>> at the front that need a different pinion yoke. When I slung the axle
>> under
>> the GC, the TJ pinion yoke was removed (actually that was done well
>> before I
>> started this particular axle swap) and I replaced it with the weird Grand
>> Cherokee yoke. The pinion shaft diameter and spline count is identical on
>> both axles, as is the seal. The depth of the splined part of both yokes
>> appears to be the same too. I have no idea if there are actually any
>> differenced inside of the seal.
>>
>> I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to
>> think
>> resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
>> deal. I just hope my test driving, and the drive to the dealer on
>> Thursday,
>> won't have ruined anything expensive to replace. I'll drive there at a
>> speed
>> wheere there's no noticeable noise, approximately 70 km/h seems to be
>> good
>> for that.
>>
>> Regardless, I'm not willingly going back into the superheated garage for
>> a
>> while. Heck, I'm sitting in the basement as I type this and sweat is
>> still
>> dripping on my glasses. Why does global warming only affect summertime
>> temperatures up here in Canada anyway?
>>
>> /Peter
>>
>> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Will that yoke physically fit then?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and
>> > > it

>> was
>> > > just fine when I removed it.
>> > >
>> > > /Peter
>> > >
>> > > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > Hi Mike,
>> > > > I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
>> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > > > http://www.billhughes.com/
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mike



  #57  
Old July 19th 05, 11:30 PM
Mike Romain
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Yup, and my wife just called from work to agree! I am packing for a
week camping and fishing in the bush. Bringing all of the listed
ingredients too... :-)

Hey Peter, I am going to be at Little Merril or Whitefish for the week
if you feel like doing a trail run and dropping by. Be there until
Tuesday likely.

Same for anyone else that knows the area we normally bush run in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you be better off, medically, if you were floating on a raft in the
> shade with a cool drink in hand to keep the weight off your back and you
> hydrated?
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Tell me about it, I am trying to convince my wife I would be better off
> > medically if I was sitting at the side of the lake up north of you on
> > the trail we run where I can jump in to keep cool. Don't need to be
> > back until next Wednesday....
> >
> > And yes, that was the yoke I was thinking about.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >>
> >> Which yoke are you referring to?
> >>
> >> The axle had a normal u-joint style pinion yoke on it when it was under
> >> my
> >> TJ. The Grand Cherokee has a wacky front drive shaft with a weird CV
> >> joint
> >> at the front that need a different pinion yoke. When I slung the axle
> >> under
> >> the GC, the TJ pinion yoke was removed (actually that was done well
> >> before I
> >> started this particular axle swap) and I replaced it with the weird Grand
> >> Cherokee yoke. The pinion shaft diameter and spline count is identical on
> >> both axles, as is the seal. The depth of the splined part of both yokes
> >> appears to be the same too. I have no idea if there are actually any
> >> differenced inside of the seal.
> >>
> >> I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to
> >> think
> >> resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
> >> deal. I just hope my test driving, and the drive to the dealer on
> >> Thursday,
> >> won't have ruined anything expensive to replace. I'll drive there at a
> >> speed
> >> wheere there's no noticeable noise, approximately 70 km/h seems to be
> >> good
> >> for that.
> >>
> >> Regardless, I'm not willingly going back into the superheated garage for
> >> a
> >> while. Heck, I'm sitting in the basement as I type this and sweat is
> >> still
> >> dripping on my glasses. Why does global warming only affect summertime
> >> temperatures up here in Canada anyway?
> >>
> >> /Peter
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Will that yoke physically fit then?
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > The bearings are not worn out. My TJ was the donor of the axle, and
> >> > > it
> >> was
> >> > > just fine when I removed it.
> >> > >
> >> > > /Peter
> >> > >
> >> > > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> >> > > ...
> >> > > > Hi Mike,
> >> > > > I'm guessing the other way, the bearings are loose.
> >> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Howling when that tight kinda implies worn out bearings eh?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Mike

  #58  
Old July 19th 05, 11:50 PM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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I'll drink to that!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you be better off, medically, if you were floating on a raft in the
> shade with a cool drink in hand to keep the weight off your back and you
> hydrated?

  #59  
Old July 21st 05, 04:13 PM
Peter Pontbriand
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Well, I just got a call from the dealer where I took the GC this morning,
and of course they now insist that they can't just set the pinion bearing
preload like they agreed to, they have to take the entire diff apart because
there are "internal problems". The revised estimate is for 6.5 hours +
parts. Naturally, this completely defeats the purpose of my swapping in a
known good axle (still under warranty), which was to avoid having to pay for
the bearings in the original to be replaced. After spending so much of my
precious time on this, then being forced to cover a monstrous repair bill
anyway, I don't know any swear words sufficient to express the way I'm
feeling right now.

/Peter

"Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
...
> I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to think
> resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
> deal.



  #60  
Old July 21st 05, 04:18 PM
Jerry Bransford
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I would have taken it to an axle shop, not the dealer. The service
writer and service manager are commissioned and they're not exactly
immune to the temptation to jack up the cost of an otherwise minor
repair if they think they can get away with it.

Jerry

Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> Well, I just got a call from the dealer where I took the GC this morning,
> and of course they now insist that they can't just set the pinion bearing
> preload like they agreed to, they have to take the entire diff apart because
> there are "internal problems". The revised estimate is for 6.5 hours +
> parts. Naturally, this completely defeats the purpose of my swapping in a
> known good axle (still under warranty), which was to avoid having to pay for
> the bearings in the original to be replaced. After spending so much of my
> precious time on this, then being forced to cover a monstrous repair bill
> anyway, I don't know any swear words sufficient to express the way I'm
> feeling right now.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I made an appointment with the Jeep dealer in the city who seemed to think
>>resetting the pinion bearing preload because of a yoke change was no big
>>deal.

>
>
>


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