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Old May 13th 04, 04:18 PM
zoro
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Default K&N inbox filter in 156 - risk ?

Hello
Can it be some risk to use K&N inbox filter in my 156V6 ?
Hear from some mechanic about air-flow meter damage ,in this engines, after
installing this type of filters.
Need i to be afraid or no ?
Thanks
156V6 2000


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Old May 13th 04, 07:16 PM
Mogens
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"zoro" > skrev i en meddelelse
...
> Hello


> Can it be some risk to use K&N inbox filter in my 156V6 ?
> Hear from some mechanic about air-flow meter damage ,in this engines,

after
> installing this type of filters.
> Need i to be afraid or no ?


I drive with a KN filter for 3 years and 90.000 km in
my Omega 3000 24V. No problems - fine sound.

/Mogens
'95 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4
'91 Opel Omega 3000 24V



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Old May 13th 04, 08:45 PM
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Have it in my 156SW1.8 for almost 100000km/3˝years now.
Don't know what you're talking about!
I do know that the engine breathes much free-er now.
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Ciao from Holland
AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
Golden Montreal (1973/4)

"zoro" > schreef in bericht
...
> Hello
> Can it be some risk to use K&N inbox filter in my 156V6 ?
> Hear from some mechanic about air-flow meter damage ,in this engines,

after
> installing this type of filters.
> Need i to be afraid or no ?
> Thanks
> 156V6 2000
>
>



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Old May 13th 04, 10:05 PM
zoro
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The air-flow sensor in V6 cars are different from twin spark so i need info
from 156V6 owners.
sorry

"Alfistagj" > wrote in message
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> Have it in my 156SW1.8 for almost 100000km/3˝years now.
> Don't know what you're talking about!
> I do know that the engine breathes much free-er now.
> --
> Ciao from Holland
> AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
> Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
> Golden Montreal (1973/4)
>
> "zoro" > schreef in bericht
> ...
> > Hello
> > Can it be some risk to use K&N inbox filter in my 156V6 ?
> > Hear from some mechanic about air-flow meter damage ,in this engines,

> after
> > installing this type of filters.
> > Need i to be afraid or no ?
> > Thanks
> > 156V6 2000
> >
> >

>
>



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Old May 13th 04, 11:03 PM
SteveH
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Pete > wrote:

> On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:18:12 +0200, "zoro" >, wrote:
>
> >Hello
> >Can it be some risk to use K&N inbox filter in my 156V6 ?
> >Hear from some mechanic about air-flow meter damage ,in this engines, after
> >installing this type of filters.
> >Need i to be afraid or no ?
> >Thanks
> >156V6 2000
> >

> I think that you know some mechanic who is crying because he knows
> that if you use the K&N filter that he will lose lots of money because you
> will not be going back to buying his rubbish filters <LOL>


This is something I read elsewhere, so can't say if it's true or not:

The airflow meter uses a wire strung across the inlet to measure air
temperature, the K&N filter oil deposits itself on the wire, causing
false readings to the ECU, which will affect fuelling.

Apparently, the build up of oil on this wire can kill an air-flow meter,
but this can be avoided if you clean it regularly.

Not entirely convinced myself, but the theory looks right.


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Old May 21st 04, 11:54 AM
Aad Doix
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Below mentioned writing is true. K&N filters theirselves do not damage
airmass sensors but when cleaning the filter you can overoil it and the
superfluous oil will set itself on the airmass sensor. In the worst case it
will damage the sensor, which is very expensive to replace.
So when cleaning this kind of filters, do not overdo the re-oiling.

Greetz,

Aad

SteveH wrote:

>This is something I read elsewhere, so can't say if it's true or not:


>The airflow meter uses a wire strung across the inlet to measure air
>temperature, the K&N filter oil deposits itself on the wire, causing
>false readings to the ECU, which will affect fuelling.


>Apparently, the build up of oil on this wire can kill an air-flow meter,
>but this can be avoided if you clean it regularly.


>Not entirely convinced myself, but the theory looks right.




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Old May 21st 04, 03:49 PM
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"Aad Doix" > schreef in bericht
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> So when cleaning this kind of filters, do not overdo the re-oiling.
>
> Greetz,
>
> Aad
>


K&N filters need re-oiling every 100000km's (!!)
Why bother re-oiling them, just buy a new one!
Or why over oil them; they don't seem to need any oil as the first oil will
last 100000km.
--
Ciao from Holland
AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
Golden Montreal (1973/4)


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Old May 23rd 04, 12:21 PM
Aad Doix
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Hi GJ,

That is true, but cleaning the filter is dependant of the environment you
driving in. When you drive your car in dusty conditions, the airfilter needs
more regular cleaning than when driving in non-dusty environment. The same
is for the stock airfilters, they need more frequent replacement then.
Overhere in Holland you do not have to clean the filter in less than 40-60k
miles (or 60 to 100k km's). But in the initial question one was asking what
exactly is true of destroying your airmass sensor when using K&N airfilters.
The use itselfs does not do any harm to your car, the cleaning and re-oiling
in the wrong way can have destructive effects on the airmass sensor.

BTW. I remember your story about the 156, it is OK right now?

Greetz,

Aad (145QV)

> K&N filters need re-oiling every 100000km's (!!)
> Why bother re-oiling them, just buy a new one!
> Or why over oil them; they don't seem to need any oil as the first oil

will
> last 100000km.
> --
> Ciao from Holland
> AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
> Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
> Golden Montreal (1973/4)
>
>



 




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