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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops
the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse. |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
On Apr 27, 12:42*pm, Usenet User > wrote:
> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops > the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the > family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them > superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn > vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so > will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will > orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his > inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse. if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many saturns ? |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
GM has killed Saturn, not Obama.
Chris '92 SL1 '00 SL1 |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
Usenet User wrote:
> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops > the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the > family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them > superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn > vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so > will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will > orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his > inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse. Uh, GM made the decision to drop the brands that were the least profitable. After GM dumped hundreds of millions of dollars into a failed brand you expected the government to encourage them to dump billions more into a failed brand. Let it go. It is rather surprising that GM dumped the Pontiac brand since it's the third best selling brand, and they're keeping Buick which is sixth. But perhaps Buick (and Cadillac) sales, despite fewer units, are more profitable. Hopefully the new GM will decide that it should be quality and engineering that sells vehicles rather than marketing gimmicks like no-haggle sales and polymer panels. |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
"SMS" > wrote in message ... > Usenet User wrote: > It is rather surprising that GM dumped the Pontiac brand since it's the > third best selling brand, and they're keeping Buick which is sixth. But > perhaps Buick (and Cadillac) sales, despite fewer units, are more > profitable. I think the reason for the choices are pretty logical. Chevy, for the low end/cost, Buick for the Mid-range and Cadillac for the upper, with GMC rebadged selected sampling versions from the 3 for optional/upper trim levels. Pontiac seems like it was kind of that mish-mosh of selections and loyalty that did not really have a concrete hold on customers. In addition, the brand fit in-between Chevy's low and Buick's mid-level offering, so killing it seems to make sense. As far as Saturn, in my opinion they drifted from the original concept of what it was supposed to be years ago and killed what made Saturn a Saturn. They also took too long to develop a follow up car to their original success of the S-series. Getting rid of the polymer sides and going with rebadged Opel's in my opinion was the killer for me. My '06 Vue was my first and last GM product... IYM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform." ~ Norman Thomas, 1944 - The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
> As far as Saturn, in my opinion they drifted from the original concept of > what it was supposed to be years ago and killed what made Saturn a Saturn. > They also took too long to develop a follow up car to their original > success of the S-series. Getting rid of the polymer sides and going with > rebadged Opel's in my opinion was the killer for me. My '06 Vue was my > first and last GM product... > Correction: My '06 Vue was my first "new" GM vehicle. I bought a used '94 SL2 in '01 that I put 100k miles on, and traded it for the Vue when it had 205k miles on it due to another family addition. (I needed something with more room). It was my success with that SL2 that convinced me to buy another Saturn product.... |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
I bought a Saturn SL in 1994. Drove it for five years before trading it
in for another one. Kept it for four years, but traded it in for a Jeep Wrangler in 2005. Bought an SL1 for my daughter in 2000 as I recall. She totaled the vehicle, but it saved her life. So, bought second Saturn SL1 to replace it. Almost identical except for the year. She drove that for 5 years and then we traded it in for a VUE (2008). In the process of evaluating the VUE, she and I test drove an Aura. I liked it so much, we bought it as a third car. Does that answer your question? We like Saturns. But now the two latest cars will be orphaned soon. Stupid move by GM. Wasn't the Saturn brand supposed to be the import car killer? Killing off all these brands instead of merging the brands is going to kill off whatever loyalty Americans still had remaining for American cars. wrote: > On Apr 27, 12:42 pm, Usenet User > wrote: >> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops >> the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the >> family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them >> superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn >> vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so >> will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will >> orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his >> inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse. > > if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many > saturns ? |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later the
economy started to go into a tailspin. Obama's lack of leadership and total and complete inexperience has kept consumer confidence at a low. Couple that with a failure of the so-called stimulus program that is not and will not create jobs, is causing consumer confidence to remain low and therefore keeping Americans from going out and buying new cars....no car sales means GM, Chrysler and to a lesser extent Ford cannot make money. Obama and the Democrats took a bad situation and just made it worse. Lost Hope, Pocket Change. Chris wrote: > GM has killed Saturn, not Obama. > > Chris > '92 SL1 > '00 SL1 |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
Usenet User wrote:
<snip> Now it's time to move forward. With 60 votes in the senate, Obama can begin the arduous task of restoring America to greatness. In just 100 days he’s already taken steps to fix the military, fix the intelligence services, restore the moral authority of the U.S., undo the disastrous environmental policies of George W. Bush and the neo-cons, fix the economic mess that George W. Bush, Reagan, and the neo-cons got us into, and begin the long process of fixing our health care system. When Reagan and George W. Bush were president it was party time. Spend, spend, spend, and go on reckless military adventures without looking at the big picture. It was great fun, and everyone enjoyed the party so much that they forget that the bill eventually comes due. It’ll take more than just eight years for Obama to undo all the damage the Republicans have wrought on our great country. The only concern is that eight years may not be enough for Obama to complete the task. One thing we should immediately begin working on is the repeal of the 22nd amendment of the constitution so Obama can serve more than just eight years. He’s still a young man after all. Changing the term limit to four terms would be appropriate given the damage that the Republicans have done to the country and the time that will be needed to undo the damage. |
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If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:17 -0400, Usenet User
> wrote: >Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later the >economy started to go into a tailspin. And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day. Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in Iraq? No, that was the neocons again. >Obama's lack of leadership and >total and complete inexperience has kept consumer confidence at a low. Consumer confidence just jumped by the most in four years. <http://seekingalpha.com/article/134000-still-low-consumer-confidence-improves-significantly> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGCiuVKXzvaQ&refer=home> >Couple that with a failure of the so-called stimulus program that is not >and will not create jobs, There are signs it is working, but it is really too early to tell. >is causing consumer confidence to remain low Typical neocon tactic: repeat your own misinformation until someone believes it. Have you noticed this isn't working anymore? (Hint: look at the party controlling the legislative and executive branches.) >and therefore keeping Americans from going out and buying new cars....no >car sales means GM, Chrysler and to a lesser extent Ford cannot make >money. If Obama hadn't bailed them out, GM and Chrysler would be in liquidation now. (And yes, I know the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation and I choose my words advisedly.) > Obama and the Democrats took a bad situation and just made it >worse. Lost Hope, Pocket Change. Whereas Bush took a healthy economy with a budget surplus and put it in the toilet while giving big tax breaks to his rich friends. > |
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