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Ok...I've got a little over a year to think this one over...
Hello everyone. I have been lurking around this board for the last
couple of weeks searching the archives and new messages for as much information as I can find on Miatas. Here's the deal. In a little over a year, maybe a year and a half, I intend to buy my first real sports car, a Miata. I've considered many different kinds of cars, but it had to be small, rear-drive and handle well. I don't care about brute power, I just want enough to zip around some mountain roads. I looked at Porsche 924s and 944s, but the parts cost too much. I do ALL my own maintenance work, and save huge amounts of money, but even the parts for those Porsches were too expensive. I love Porsches, so that made me sad. Anyway, then I started considering Miatas. Now I find myself pointing them out to my fiancee and myself every time I see one. They are truly gorgeous little cars! Anyway, for a considering first time buyer, here's a few questions: 1. Right now, I own a '73 Beetle. Heavily modified with roll bars, wide tires, Porsche rims, modified 1600DP engine. Fun as hell, handles great, but I spend too much time maintaining it, it's a little too slow, and it runs...well not so great in the winter time. The carb is finicky when it's cold becuase the manifold heat doesn't work right. I need to run full tune-ups and oil changes on it every 2000 miles! When i graduate in about 1.5 years, I won't have the time to do that kind of work anymore. How much maintenance are we talking for a Miata? What is the expected life of the average Miata engine? 200,000 miles? 2. I want the Miata as a daily driver, and it will be parked in lots very often, so I want a hardtop for it. What hardtops fit what years? Does one hardtop fit everything? 3. How expensive are parts, generally? I'm used to cheap parts for an aircooled VW....except for performance parts; good ones cost SO much. (of course, that's all I've put on my '73!) 4. I'm 6'2". I've read a lot of posts about tall drivers here, and it looks like someone with my build (very slim, but legs and arms are proportional to height) will just fit in a Miata as long as it was made before 99. I don't like the exposed headlights of post '99 models anyway, so good for me. Is this pretty accurate? What about the seat foam thing? 5. That being said, what models should I consider? I'll probably be able to spend about $4000 on it, so I assume that narrows my search to higher millage cars from the '90-'95 era; those are the ones with the 1.6 liter engine right? 6. How much millage is too much? As long as it was well taken care of, 100,000 miles doesn't seem like much to one of these little cars. 7. I used to own a '93 Ford Festiva. It used a Mazda engine, I beleive it was called the B3; 1.3 liters of SOHC fury. (haha) Looking in the engine bays of Miatas reminds me very much of that Festiva, except the Festiva's engine was mounted transversely. That Festiva made it up to 150,000 miles before I got rid of it becuase some b**ch crashed into me at my highschool graduation. The car was said to be totaled, looked horrible, but still drove well. I gave it to a friend for free. I saw it driving around about two years ago, which was a year after my highschool graduation. So apparently it's still running. HOWEVER, it had a problem with the ignition circuit were the rotor in the distributor would crack like every 30,000 miles and you'd be stranded. $$ to fix. The other problem was that the exhuast seemed to rust out very fast too. What common problems do Miatas have? 8. Finally (thanks for reading!) is this a good car for someone my age to consider? (I'm 21 and will probably be 23 by the time I can get a Miata) Driving is not just a means of reaching a location to me. The best parts of every day for me are the drives there and back! I need a standard tranny and good handling with moderate power to have fun. I'm not your usual college idiot. I never drink to get drunk, I never drive after drinking, and like I said, I do all my own work on my cars, which I take VERY good care of. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for a lot of my friends (who would never touch my cars). Thanks ~Anthony |
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Anthony wrote:
> Hello everyone. I have been lurking around this board for the last > couple of weeks searching the archives and new messages for as much > information as I can find on Miatas. Here's the deal. In a little > over a year, maybe a year and a half, I intend to buy my first real > sports car, a Miata. <snippage> Well, you've certainly picked the right car! As Lanny, said, spend some quality time over at www.miata.net, particularly the section on buying a used Miata. I'll toss in some answers to your questions as well.... > 1. Right now, I own a '73 Beetle. Heavily modified with roll bars, > wide tires, Porsche rims, modified 1600DP engine. Fun as hell, > handles great, but I spend too much time maintaining it, it's a little > too slow, and it runs...well not so great in the winter time. The > carb is finicky when it's cold becuase the manifold heat doesn't work > right. I need to run full tune-ups and oil changes on it every 2000 > miles! When i graduate in about 1.5 years, I won't have the time to > do that kind of work anymore. How much maintenance are we talking for > a Miata? What is the expected life of the average Miata engine? > 200,000 miles? There are Miata "out there" with over 225,000. My 90 has just under 99,000. Changing the oil every 3,000 miles helps these little engines keep going virtually forever. And the heater! I've actually turned the heater OFF in the winter 'cause the cockpit got too warm. Put 4 snowtires on your Miata, and keep going through the winter - as long as there's not more than 6" of powder - Miata do not make good snowplows. > 2. I want the Miata as a daily driver, and it will be parked in lots > very often, so I want a hardtop for it. What hardtops fit what years? > Does one hardtop fit everything? The hardtops will fit every year. They also make the car warmer in the winter. > 3. How expensive are parts, generally? I'm used to cheap parts for > an aircooled VW....except for performance parts; good ones cost SO > much. (of course, that's all I've put on my '73!) Take a look at the vendors in the marketplace at miata.net for price comparisons. I've found that parts ordered through there *usually* cost less than at my local dealership. And they're cheaper than Volvo parts (our Miata Support Vehicle). > 4. I'm 6'2". I've read a lot of posts about tall drivers here, and > it looks like someone with my build (very slim, but legs and arms are > proportional to height) will just fit in a Miata as long as it was > made before 99. I don't like the exposed headlights of post '99 > models anyway, so good for me. Is this pretty accurate? What about > the seat foam thing? The older models do have more interior room. I just drove a friend's 99 the other day and my legs were not comfortable - felt like the dead pedal was set way higher than in my 90. I'm somewhat vertically challenged so I leave the rest of this to a taller poster. > 5. That being said, what models should I consider? I'll probably be > able to spend about $4000 on it, so I assume that narrows my search to > higher millage cars from the '90-'95 era; those are the ones with the > 1.6 liter engine right? Look around a lot. Drive LOTS of different Miata. You'll know when you find *your* car. And don't put down the 90-95 models - they just keep chugging along. > 6. How much millage is too much? As long as it was well taken care > of, 100,000 miles doesn't seem like much to one of these little cars. Make sure to ask for maintenance records. I keep a notebook with my oil changes, filter changes, parts added, etc. That's the best way to *know* if the car has been maintained. > 7.<snippage> What common problems do Miatas have? Rainy weather. Seriously, some of the earlier models had a problem with the short crank. Again, more info on miata.net. > 8. Finally (thanks for reading!) is this a good car for someone my > age to consider? (I'm 21 and will probably be 23 by the time I can get > a Miata) Driving is not just a means of reaching a location to me. > The best parts of every day for me are the drives there and back! I > need a standard tranny and good handling with moderate power to have > fun. I'm not your usual college idiot. I never drink to get drunk, I > never drive after drinking, and like I said, I do all my own work on > my cars, which I take VERY good care of. Unfortunately, I can't say > the same for a lot of my friends (who would never touch my cars). The Miata is a *very* good car for you to consider. They are reliable and FUN TO DRIVE!!! Since you've got a "little over a year", spend it at www.miata.net And make sure to stop back in and let us know what Miata snared you! Just remember, red is the fastest color. ;-D -- Iva & Belle.) '90B Classic Red.) #3 winkin' Miata |
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> In a little > over a year, maybe a year and a half, I intend to buy my first real > sports car, a Miata. Wonderful decision! > How much maintenance are we talking for > a Miata? What is the expected life of the average Miata engine? > 200,000 miles? Regular oil changes; brakes at some point (depends on how aggressively you drive); timing belt at 60,000; new top someday. Miatas are notably durable even beyond 100,000 miles. > > 2. I want the Miata as a daily driver, and it will be parked in lots > very often, so I want a hardtop for it. What hardtops fit what years? > Does one hardtop fit everything? All factory hardtops fit all 1990-2004 at least; not sure if all aftermarket units fit. Very nice in winter, for the large window, and not having to be quite as careful when brushing off snow. > > 3. How expensive are parts, generally? I'm used to cheap parts for > an aircooled VW....except for performance parts; good ones cost SO > much. (of course, that's all I've put on my '73!) Front and rear brakes (parts and labor) $400; replace electric antenna lift $170; console lid (part only) $80. You'll not get anywhere near this level of economy with a Porshe or Audi. This is the total list of what I've done to my '99 in five years of daily use (Also snow tires on rims, $425, and new summer tires $380) > > 4. I'm 6'2". I've read a lot of posts about tall drivers here, and > it looks like someone with my build (very slim, but legs and arms are > proportional to height) will just fit in a Miata as long as it was > made before 99. I don't like the exposed headlights of post '99 > models anyway, so good for me. Is this pretty accurate? What about > the seat foam thing? Lots of argument about the various years and the seat changes. Our local club has several very tall guys in both M1 and M2 (post-99) models > > 5. That being said, what models should I consider? I'll probably be > able to spend about $4000 on it, so I assume that narrows my search to > higher millage cars from the '90-'95 era; those are the ones with the > 1.6 liter engine right? Depending on the time of year, you may be able to go newer. The 1994 was the first year of the 1800cc engine. > > 6. How much millage is too much? As long as it was well taken care > of, 100,000 miles doesn't seem like much to one of these little cars. You can get a lot of service out of a 100,000 mile car if its been well maintained. If over 60000, make sure someone else paid to change the timing belt already. > > 8. Finally (thanks for reading!) is this a good car for someone my > age to consider? (I'm 21 and will probably be 23 by the time I can get > a Miata) Driving is not just a means of reaching a location to me. That last sentence is the whole reason the Miata exists! Its also relatively easy to insure due to the modest performance- its not known for attracting knucklehead driver. Just make sure you've got a friend with a van or pickup- you can't move furniture or take the gang tailgating in a Miata. Have fun Joe Silver '99 > Thanks > > ~Anthony |
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> Just make sure you've got a friend with a van or pickup- you can't move > furniture or take the gang tailgating in a Miata. > > Have fun > Joe > Silver '99 > > Thanks Haha...my fiancee has a Land Rover Discovery. Not a problem with hauling stuff around. Anyway, I've never driven anything but small cars. First car, Ford Festiva, second, VW aircooled Beetle, third will hopefully be the Miata. Thanks so much for the courteous replies and good information. I've run into too many automotive boards on the 'net full of morons that just tell you "what?! You want a Miata? Those pieces of **** are slow chick cars!" I fully intend to spend the next year finding out as much as I can from miata.net, this board and various other locations I know are out there somewhere. On a different note, these cars are even a blast to drive on Gran Turismo 3! (hey, got to procrastinate some how). ~Anthony |
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(Anthony) wrote: > On a different note, these cars are even a blast to drive on Gran > Turismo 3! FWIW, the bone-stock GT3 Miatas drive very much like real ones, especially at SSR5 Wet. I use a Logitech wheel, and the semblance to running a real Miata on a wet track is uncanny. Both are experiences in maintaining momentum. And both are giant killers, capable of walking away from "faster" cars.. -- Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA '94C the alignment page: http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html |
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I have a 1990 Miata that I bought more than 6 years ago. At that time
it had about 90,000 miles on it. I had never owned a convertible before, and I was a little apprehensive about possible future costs of replacing the top, as well as buying a high-mileage car. However, I have been EXTREMELY pleased with the Miata. For about four years, the only repair cost was to replace the backup light switch. Then I had to have a new clutch, and recently a new timing belt. These have been the only major repair costs, and they are items that would have to be renewed in any car. The top is holding up very well -- partly, no doubt, because I put the hardtop on during the winter months. The car now has 135,000 miles on it, and the engine shows no sign of wear -- it is not burning any oil for example. I use it every day, and drive my other car (first, a Mercury Grand Marquis when I originally bought the Miata, then a Saab 900, and now a Toyota Avalon) only for long trips, and when I need more room than in the Miata. In my limited experience with parts for the Miata, they do not seem expensive -- certainly not by comparison with the Saab. "Anthony" > wrote in message om... > Hello everyone. I have been lurking around this board for the last > couple of weeks searching the archives and new messages for as much > information as I can find on Miatas. Here's the deal. In a little > over a year, maybe a year and a half, I intend to buy my first real > sports car, a Miata. I've considered many different kinds of cars, > but it had to be small, rear-drive and handle well. I don't care > about brute power, I just want enough to zip around some mountain > roads. I looked at Porsche 924s and 944s, but the parts cost too > much. I do ALL my own maintenance work, and save huge amounts of > money, but even the parts for those Porsches were too expensive. I > love Porsches, so that made me sad. Anyway, then I started > considering Miatas. Now I find myself pointing them out to my fiancee > and myself every time I see one. They are truly gorgeous little cars! > Anyway, for a considering first time buyer, here's a few questions: > > 1. Right now, I own a '73 Beetle. Heavily modified with roll bars, > wide tires, Porsche rims, modified 1600DP engine. Fun as hell, > handles great, but I spend too much time maintaining it, it's a little > too slow, and it runs...well not so great in the winter time. The > carb is finicky when it's cold becuase the manifold heat doesn't work > right. I need to run full tune-ups and oil changes on it every 2000 > miles! When i graduate in about 1.5 years, I won't have the time to > do that kind of work anymore. How much maintenance are we talking for > a Miata? What is the expected life of the average Miata engine? > 200,000 miles? > > 2. I want the Miata as a daily driver, and it will be parked in lots > very often, so I want a hardtop for it. What hardtops fit what years? > Does one hardtop fit everything? > > 3. How expensive are parts, generally? I'm used to cheap parts for > an aircooled VW....except for performance parts; good ones cost SO > much. (of course, that's all I've put on my '73!) > > 4. I'm 6'2". I've read a lot of posts about tall drivers here, and > it looks like someone with my build (very slim, but legs and arms are > proportional to height) will just fit in a Miata as long as it was > made before 99. I don't like the exposed headlights of post '99 > models anyway, so good for me. Is this pretty accurate? What about > the seat foam thing? > > 5. That being said, what models should I consider? I'll probably be > able to spend about $4000 on it, so I assume that narrows my search to > higher millage cars from the '90-'95 era; those are the ones with the > 1.6 liter engine right? > > 6. How much millage is too much? As long as it was well taken care > of, 100,000 miles doesn't seem like much to one of these little cars. > > 7. I used to own a '93 Ford Festiva. It used a Mazda engine, I > beleive it was called the B3; 1.3 liters of SOHC fury. (haha) Looking > in the engine bays of Miatas reminds me very much of that Festiva, > except the Festiva's engine was mounted transversely. That Festiva > made it up to 150,000 miles before I got rid of it becuase some b**ch > crashed into me at my highschool graduation. The car was said to be > totaled, looked horrible, but still drove well. I gave it to a friend > for free. I saw it driving around about two years ago, which was a > year after my highschool graduation. So apparently it's still > running. HOWEVER, it had a problem with the ignition circuit were the > rotor in the distributor would crack like every 30,000 miles and you'd > be stranded. $$ to fix. The other problem was that the exhuast seemed > to rust out very fast too. What common problems do Miatas have? > > 8. Finally (thanks for reading!) is this a good car for someone my > age to consider? (I'm 21 and will probably be 23 by the time I can get > a Miata) Driving is not just a means of reaching a location to me. > The best parts of every day for me are the drives there and back! I > need a standard tranny and good handling with moderate power to have > fun. I'm not your usual college idiot. I never drink to get drunk, I > never drive after drinking, and like I said, I do all my own work on > my cars, which I take VERY good care of. Unfortunately, I can't say > the same for a lot of my friends (who would never touch my cars). > > Thanks > > ~Anthony |
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