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max > wrote in
ink.net: > In article .com>, > wrote: > >> Bikes cause roughly 800 fatalities per year in the US. Motor vehicles >> cause around 35,000 to 40,000. >> >> Bicyclists suffer less than 1% of the fatal head injuries in America. >> Motor vehicle occupants are roughly 50% of those victims. > > Frank has a point. > > The reason, which most people seem incapable of actually articulating, > that cycling has so much fewer fatal injuries is that the total system > energy available is dramatically lower. > > For example, a bike-bike collision has roughly 1/500th (0.2%) the total > system energy (not including the 40 gallons of flaming gasoline!) of a > car-car collision, (200# cyclists @15 mph vs. 3000# cars @ 40 mph). > > .max > Perhaps more due to bicycling is less common than people driving autos,not "energy-related". way. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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> wrote: > >Instead, pavement engineers >commonly accept that pavement damage is related to total weight, with >damage much more than proportional to weight. Really? So that's why no pavement engineer cares how many axles a truck has, or the load distribution among those axles is, or how many tires on each axle? Oh, wait, they do. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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> wrote: > >Jim Yanik wrote: >> >> No;users pay,plain and simple. >> > >Where, other than interstate highways, do the users pay 100% of the >costs? > >Nowhere. Pennsylvania, for all state maintained roadways. Most places, once you work through the fancy accounting that transfers road money elsewhere then partially makes up for it by transferring other money into the roads. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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In article . net>,
max > wrote: > >The reason, which most people seem incapable of actually articulating, >that cycling has so much fewer fatal injuries is that the total system >energy available is dramatically lower. > >For example, a bike-bike collision has roughly 1/500th (0.2%) the total >system energy (not including the 40 gallons of flaming gasoline!) of a >car-car collision, (200# cyclists @15 mph vs. 3000# cars @ 40 mph). Bicyclist logic is so weird. Bicyclists think picking out particular differences in two scenarios somehow proves something, when they haven't accounted for all the OTHER differences. For instance, all the inanimate metal available to ABSORB the energy of the collision. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Matthew Russotto > wrote in message ... > -- > There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can > result in a fully-depreciated one. This makes no sense at all. |
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In article >,
Matthew > wrote: > >Matthew Russotto > wrote in message ... >> -- >> There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting >practices can >> result in a fully-depreciated one. > >This makes no sense at all. You've never considered the economics of leftovers? -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
> I have no problem with paying a user fee for my road vehicles;it's the > bicyclists that have a problem with it. > They want to keep their unfair exclusion. > Tell you what Jim. Use your superior intellect and argumentative abilities and convince the motorist legislators (that should be easy since as motorists they should share your views about bicyclists) in your state to institute users fees for bicyclists. When that occurs, you'll have vindication and can feel good about your efforts and you won't feel slighted. Until then, I and others bicyclists will freely use the roads. If you had any real sense, you'd reject those hideous restrictions on motoring and join the ranks of the free. Wayne |
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