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Mark Anderson > wrote: >In article >, says... >> >This is a myth propagated by people who don't understand economics. If >> >corporate taxes were eliminated, Starbucks isn't going to lower the price >> >of its coffee. The reason it charges $4 for a cup of coffee is that they >> >have determined the consumer is willing to pay that price. If their >> >market gurus found that the consumer was willing to pay $5 for a cup of >> >coffee with an acceptable drop off in demand, Starbucks will charge $5, >> >corporate tax or no corporate tax. >> >> This is a myth propagated by people who have a little knowledge about >> economics. The model where cost has no impact on price only works in >> a monopoly world. > >You're probably one of the people who still believe that the reason >baseball tickets are so expensive is because of inflated player salaries. >You must be a hoot in a bar conversation or a drinking man's philosopher. Baseball IS a monopoly, you know.... -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Matthew Russotto wrote: > In article >, > Mark Anderson > wrote: > >In article >, > says... > >> >This is a myth propagated by people who don't understand economics. If > >> >corporate taxes were eliminated, Starbucks isn't going to lower the price > >> >of its coffee. The reason it charges $4 for a cup of coffee is that they > >> >have determined the consumer is willing to pay that price. If their > >> >market gurus found that the consumer was willing to pay $5 for a cup of > >> >coffee with an acceptable drop off in demand, Starbucks will charge $5, > >> >corporate tax or no corporate tax. > >> > >> This is a myth propagated by people who have a little knowledge about > >> economics. The model where cost has no impact on price only works in > >> a monopoly world. > > > >You're probably one of the people who still believe that the reason > >baseball tickets are so expensive is because of inflated player salaries. > >You must be a hoot in a bar conversation or a drinking man's philosopher. > > Baseball IS a monopoly, you know.... You mean Monopoly is baseball... <http://www.etailgifts.com/images/baseballboard.jpg> |
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Mark Anderson wrote:
> You're probably one of the people who still believe that the reason > baseball tickets are so expensive is because of inflated player salaries. It is. It's not as if the owners had to pay for their own stadiums, they've conned taxpayers into doing that. |
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Brent P > wrote: >you'll understand. Let's say your federal income tax obligation all said >and done is 20% of your income. Let's say I make significantly less and >my obligation is zero after deductions. I want free ice cream every >friday, as do many others. We want the federal government to provide us ice >cream every friday. There are enough of us that congress criters want our >votes. The benefits of having ice cream once a week are brought out, some >people object that ice cream will make people fat and the lactose >intolerant will be left out. An admendment is made for special ice cream >You now pay 21% of your income in federal income taxes after deductions. I >still pay 0% after deductions. I and the majority of people who don't >have to pay now have free ice cream every friday. > >Now we want free cake on tuesdays, and chicken every saturday... These preposterously simple minded conservative scenarios tell us **** about the real world. I haven't heard any body asking for free cake and chicken. But even if the government did provide free cake to everybody it would a completely insignificant expediture relative to things like DEBT INTEREST payments. >And that's why it's a problem. It destroys the republic as people vote >themselves money from the treasury. You know what really does "destroy the republic"? GOVERNMENT DEBT hyperinflated by simultaneous tax cuts and solo wars. What destroys the republic are _huge_ government debt pileups created by idiots thinking "I don't want my neighbor to get free cake and ice cream some day so I'll vote myself a huge tax cut to make sure it doesn't happen." Almost all of your money is going to pay for $$$ debt interest, $$$ cluster bombs, an insurance system for elderly and disabled people, and guaranteed $$$ profits for drug and other companies -- it is not going to pay for cake. >Wether you think the cause is worthy >or not, when this condition of taxation exists, those who don't have to >pay the taxes will gleefully vote for those who transfer funds from those >paying the taxes. I will "gleefully" vote to provide children with health insurance because they can't vote for it themselves. I'm pretty certain Jesus would gleefully want that too. I will "gleefully" vote for a universal health care system because (1) every other country pays far less than the USA with generally better health statistics and (2) more than 18000 American citizens die every year without it. That means in the last 10 years the US has had 3000 deaths from terrorism (and spent $500+ billion because of it) versus 180,000+ deaths from lack of health care. |
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Brent P > wrote: >And as I have been saying what is wanted, are groups of citizens >demanding money from another group and using the power of government as a >weapon to do it. That "group of citizens" are called "US government bond holders". But now almost half are foreigners rather than citizens. This group has expanded greatly thanks to George Bush. The practical effect of his mismanagement is that the American taxpayers are developing a serfdom relationship with foreign governments like the Communist government in China because now we have to pay them a yearly $$$ tribute called "interest payments". |
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