NSR Shimmering

What version of nVidia control panel?

"Smokin_Bob" > wrote in message
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>I doubt if any of you guys have this problem but when I went into my
> nVIDIA control panel, I discovered every single possible optimization
> routine enabled!!! Well, enough of that, so I disabled the
> optimizations and ended up with a noticeably better image quality, and
> no reduction in FPS.
>
> The Aniso tip I mentioned earlier--you can set it to 1,2,4,8 (?),
> 16...(?). Not only is it an 'on or off' deal, but you can adjust the
> level as well, or at least that is the impression I got.
>
> This sim is really starting to shine on this system. I also had a play
> with the 'Detroit Locker' modification to the *.svm (setups) file--I
> used a DiffPower of 18 and a DiffPreload of 1, and the driving felt a
> lot 'looser' in the corners, but still I could feel the mass of the car
> (virtually, of course), and the tires grabbing the pavement. With this
> modification, it became nearly impossible (for me) to powerslide the
> thing anywhere. Actually, it felt great--unfortunately, I don't feel
> like updating 60000 *.svm files to make them do this, nor do I want to
> muck up the *.hdv files as that would cause a multiplayer mismatch.
>
> I SURE HOPE EA puts the correct differential in the sim--it is very
> good, in my opinion, out of the box, but with that little
> adjustment--wow, is all I can say. Why they left out the correct Diff,
> I will never know-maybe so the newbies could slide it around like a
> dirt tracker and have fun that way. It is noticebly more difficult to
> drive with the mod to the svm file, but at least both wheels spin when
> you give it the gas. How can you miss something like this??? Even
> this was brought up in the demo discussion and they still leave it
> in???
>
> I hope EA makes new hdv or svm files, cause I sure in the Sam Hill am
> not looking forward to doing this for EVERY SINGLE SETUP I USE Of
> course, if I have to, I will--but why should I, or anyone else, fix
> that differential issue ???
>
> Well, enough for now. I think my graphics are set very well, and the
> race I did last night at Atlanta was amazing--especially as I pull out
> of the pits and 30 cars go blasting by!! That was awesome!!!! Like
> very much so far.....
>

I am using the 66.93 drivers on a 6800 GT card. I just got the card a
month or so ago, and am really happy with it so far. I had a couple of
Radeons before it, and they weren't bad, but I did want to upgrade.

I see the shimmering at Daytona as well. I do have mipmaps on.

That's interesting about ansio not working unless you manually turn it on in
the cfg file.

Jeez, YAFCFC.

Yet Another Friggin Config File Change

I hope I NEVER have to reinstall this thing again. I'll NEVER get it back
the same!

-Larry

"David G Fisher" > wrote in message
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>
> "Neil Charlton" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> I don't see that at all.
>
> When you ran 3d config, did you check "use mip maps"?
>
> If you didn't, the graphics are going to look like bad. A lot like what
> you
> described.
> --
> David G Fisher
>
>
>

Which optimizations are you speaking of?

-Larry

"Smokin_Bob" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I doubt if any of you guys have this problem but when I went into my
> nVIDIA control panel, I discovered every single possible optimization
> routine enabled!!! Well, enough of that, so I disabled the
> optimizations and ended up with a noticeably better image quality, and
> no reduction in FPS.
>
> The Aniso tip I mentioned earlier--you can set it to 1,2,4,8 (?),
> 16...(?). Not only is it an 'on or off' deal, but you can adjust the
> level as well, or at least that is the impression I got.

Anisotropic works without doing anything with the config file.


--
David G Fisher

"Larry" > wrote in message
newsqMTd.11948$7z6.9058@lakeread04...
> I see the shimmering at Daytona as well. I do have mipmaps on.
>
> That's interesting about ansio not working unless you manually turn it on
in
> the cfg file.
>
> Jeez, YAFCFC.
>
> Yet Another Friggin Config File Change
>
> I hope I NEVER have to reinstall this thing again. I'll NEVER get it back
> the same!
>
> -Larry
>
> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Neil Charlton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > I don't see that at all.
> >
> > When you ran 3d config, did you check "use mip maps"?
> >
> > If you didn't, the graphics are going to look like bad. A lot like what
> > you
> > described.
> > --
> > David G Fisher
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Larry,

In the performance options of the control panel....Trilinear
optimization, anisotropic optimization, etc. Basically all the stuff
that makes image quality suffer at the hands of performance. There is
right mouse button click help on the options if you want to know what
they do.

David,

You are exactly correct--your card can do it as well. That is just
another thing to try in case the card, for whatever reason, doesnt like
it. EA wants the FSAA off on the card, but I do not know what they feel
about the aniso. Just set it back to zero for sure.

Wow, I thought optimized meant better quality. You're saying it means
better performance?

That's kinda confusing

-Larry

"Smokin_Bob" > wrote in message
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> Larry,
>
> In the performance options of the control panel....Trilinear
> optimization, anisotropic optimization, etc. Basically all the stuff
> that makes image quality suffer at the hands of performance. There is
> right mouse button click help on the options if you want to know what
> they do.
>
> David,
>
> You are exactly correct--your card can do it as well. That is just
> another thing to try in case the card, for whatever reason, doesnt like
> it. EA wants the FSAA off on the card, but I do not know what they feel
> about the aniso. Just set it back to zero for sure.
>

Larry,

No kidding--had me fooled for weeks I suppose it all depends on the
wording, optimized for speed or quality...

"David G Fisher" > wrote in message
...
> Anisotropic works without doing anything with the config file.
>
>
> --
> David G Fisher
>
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> newsqMTd.11948$7z6.9058@lakeread04...
>> I see the shimmering at Daytona as well. I do have mipmaps on.
>>
>> That's interesting about ansio not working unless you manually turn it on
> in
>> the cfg file.
>>
>> Jeez, YAFCFC.
>>
>> Yet Another Friggin Config File Change
>>
>> I hope I NEVER have to reinstall this thing again. I'll NEVER get it back
>> the same!
>>
>> -Larry
>>
>> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Neil Charlton" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > I don't see that at all.
>> >
>> > When you ran 3d config, did you check "use mip maps"?
>> >
>> > If you didn't, the graphics are going to look like bad. A lot like what
>> > you
>> > described.
>> > --
>> > David G Fisher
>> >
>> >
Same experience her Dave - config has no effect on Aniso. The graphic card
setting do have an effect. Unfortunately, messing with it doesn't help the
shimmering at all (for me) but going to the highest level greatly improved
the quality of the winshield support bar shadows on the dash!

I found something else interesting - I can reproduce one aspect of the
problem for those with different systems to compare. Start a full race, at
the back of the grid, odds are you'll be behind a dodge. All the dodges have
the DODGE logo on the rear bumper. As the field pulls out of the pits, the
logo will appear to 'roll and shimmer'.

It as if the game's worked out that the car is further away and the logo is
therefore smaller and must be rescaled (which is correct) but then redraws
it totally ineptly. One pixel shifts in the pattern give the rolling and
shimmering effect. I must have tried everything by now but the ONLY thing
that's made any difference at all is to put image quality in the game at
low. Things don't look too good now but the logo no longer rolls as the car
pulls away. Similarly, sit in the pits with a fence post near you. As you
slightly move the wheel, you can see drawn pixels roll up and down the fence
post as it attempts to redraw at a slightly different position. Like I said,
I 'm currently running 1024x768, 6xAA, 16xAF all details maxed for quality
but NONE of these settings affect the problem. The only thing that helps, as
I've just said, is lowering the game's image quality setting.

I'd like to say that this experiment tells me that graphically, they've done
a poor job on NSR but as I can't really as I don't know enough about how
this particular aspect works. It could also be just my own physiology that
makes these artifacts so distracting and hence spoils the experience for me.
Reading between the lines of an earlier thread regarding EAs patch
intentions, it doesn't appear that they intend to address any of the
graphical issues in the near future (cars, textures etc). I think this is a
real shame as sorting out the quality and accuracy of the cars, fixing the
diff/height issue and sorting the flags fiasco would make this thing a
contender.

Regards