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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:22:45 GMT, "C. E. White"
> wrote: >> Think of it as Road Karma in action. > >I don't get it. It seems to me the guy in the SUV was doing nothing wrong. He was needlessly blocking traffic by driving at half the posted speed limit in the left lane. You see nothing wrong with that? Oh, wait - I forgot who I was talking to. >If he had driven 55 up to the intersection, he would have had to lock up his >brakes to keep from hitting the Durango. No, he could have changed lanes just as I did. >If you hadn't decided to switch >into LLB mode, the SUV drive could have switched into the left lane and >sailed through the intersection at full speed as well. The Sloth Coaster was in the left lane the entire time, as was the Dreamer's Durango. And, since I was moving twice as fast as he was (once I escaped his rolling roadblock), he could have changed lanes behind me. For whatever reason he was too witless to do so. >You seem to think >you have a right to drive like a total ass because anyone in front of you is >a "Sloth" driver. Grow up. Driving at the posted speed limit is driving "like a total ass?" I think you're starting to lose it, Ed... |
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On 18 Jul 2005 05:30:51 -0700, "N8N" > wrote:
>I don't understand this obsession with "sloth coasters..." It's pretty simple: they needlessly block the road, reducing overall capacity and throughput. I can't count the number of times I've missed a left turn arrow because some inconsiderate Sloth Coaster saw a red light up ahead and decided to just roll up to it at 20 MPH (in a 50 MPH zone). By the time I can get into the left turn pocket, my window of opportunity is closed, and I have to wait through an entire light cycle - and all because some asshole thought HE was the most important driver on the road. >Often when >approaching a red light I will start coasting down well back from the >light, then when it turns green all I have to do is drop a gear or two >and blow past all the people that ran up to the light at full speed and >then had to stop for it. Saves wear and tear on the car as well as >gasoline. That's fine - just do it in the middle lane so that you don't needlessly block the entrances to right or left turn pockets. That's just basic courtesy. |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On 18 Jul 2005 05:30:51 -0700, "N8N" > wrote: > > >>I don't understand this obsession with "sloth coasters..." > > > It's pretty simple: they needlessly block the road, reducing overall > capacity and throughput. I can't count the number of times I've missed > a left turn arrow because some inconsiderate Sloth Coaster saw a red > light up ahead and decided to just roll up to it at 20 MPH (in a 50 > MPH zone). By the time I can get into the left turn pocket, my window > of opportunity is closed, and I have to wait through an entire light > cycle - and all because some asshole thought HE was the most important > driver on the road. Had you not had your left turn signal on, the driver in front of you would have sped up to allow you to catch the green. (yeah right) |
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"JohnH" > wrote in message
... >> I don't understand this obsession with "sloth coasters..." Often when >> approaching a red light I will start coasting down well back from the >> light, then when it turns green all I have to do is drop a gear or two >> and blow past all the people that ran up to the light at full speed >> and then had to stop for it. Saves wear and tear on the car as well >> as gasoline. > > Same here; I usually get the jump on the jerky drivers who haul ass to a > red light. I do this too. It works great on timed lights, but hey. Some folks just have to get to the next light before anyone else. |
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:22:45 GMT, "C. E. White" > > wrote: > >>> Think of it as Road Karma in action. >> >>I don't get it. It seems to me the guy in the SUV was doing nothing wrong. > > He was needlessly blocking traffic by driving at half the posted speed > limit in the left lane. You see nothing wrong with that? Oh, wait - I > forgot who I was talking to. > >>If he had driven 55 up to the intersection, he would have had to lock up >>his >>brakes to keep from hitting the Durango. > > No, he could have changed lanes just as I did. > >>If you hadn't decided to switch >>into LLB mode, the SUV drive could have switched into the left lane and >>sailed through the intersection at full speed as well. > > The Sloth Coaster was in the left lane the entire time, as was the > Dreamer's Durango. And, since I was moving twice as fast as he was > (once I escaped his rolling roadblock), he could have changed lanes > behind me. For whatever reason he was too witless to do so. > >>You seem to think >>you have a right to drive like a total ass because anyone in front of you >>is >>a "Sloth" driver. Grow up. > > Driving at the posted speed limit is driving "like a total ass?" > > I think you're starting to lose it, Ed... Well you are including additional information not in your original post. I thought you were totally against passing on the right? And slowing down to catch the light while you are still rolling can increase the average speed of traffic (hitting the intersection at 30 mph is faster than stopping and accelerating from 0). Roaring up to a red light and screeching to a halt wastes gas and time. I'll admit there are cases where people slow down way to much and way to soon. However, it seems to me that your characterization of the SUV driver in your little story is just another case of you trying to demonize someone driving in a safe and reasonable manner (well except for possibly being an LLB - sounds like it was a busy surface street). At worst, he did nothing to interfere with you. In fact it seems to me like you should have titled your little story, "How I cut off another diver and passed him on the right." Every time I see one of your "sloth driver" tales, all I see is a bad driver trying to justify his rude and possibly dangerous behavior by claiming the other guy is a "sloth." I guess we are lucky we are a continent apart. I can only imagine how you would have written he story if the SUV driver had switched to right lane in front of you......maybe you would have said - "Killer Sloth SUV Driver slows me down by 1 sec at a light...." Ed |
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In article >, newsgroup says:
>It's pretty simple: they needlessly block the road, reducing overall >capacity and throughput. I can't count the number of times I've missed >a left turn arrow because some inconsiderate Sloth Coaster saw a red >light up ahead and decided to just roll up to it at 20 MPH (in a 50 >MPH zone). Amen; it's not about the *sloth* car, it's about all the poor fsckers stuck *behind* him (or usually, "her"). -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles H: 3630 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #138, L.A., CA 90034-6809 (310) 391-1898 |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:35:00 GMT, "C. E. White"
> wrote: >Well you are including additional information not in your original post. Apparently clarification was necessary. >I thought you were totally against passing on the right? No, that's Ricardo. I'm totally pragmatic - if there's a way around a Sloth, I'll take it; I won't waste my time in a futile attempt to "teach them a lesson." >And slowing down to >catch the light while you are still rolling can increase the average speed >of traffic CAN. But not all practitioners are competent. Hence the distinction between "Coasters" and "Sloth Coasters." >However, it seems to me that your characterization >of the SUV driver in your little story is just another case of you trying to >demonize someone driving in a safe and reasonable manner (well except for >possibly being an LLB - sounds like it was a busy surface street). At worst, >he did nothing to interfere with you. Amazing how you can make that determination without having been there yourself. How about telling us where Jimmy Hoffa is buried before your clairvoyance wears off? >In fact it seems to me like you should >have titled your little story, "How I cut off another diver and passed him >on the right." How could I cut him off? I was stuck BEHIND him. |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:44:09 GMT, "Skip Elliott Bowman"
> wrote: >> Same here; I usually get the jump on the jerky drivers who haul ass to a >> red light. > >I do this too. It works great on timed lights ....Which do not exist here in SoCal in any great numbers. And therein lies the flaw in the whole Coaster concept: there absolutely no way to tell from half a mile away when the light is going to change - yet these Sloth Coasters smugly hold up traffic and think they're smarter than everybody else. What tools! |
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:35:00 GMT, "C. E. White" > > wrote: > >>Well you are including additional information not in your original post. > > Apparently clarification was necessary. > >>I thought you were totally against passing on the right? > > No, that's Ricardo. I'm totally pragmatic - if there's a way around a > Sloth, I'll take it; I won't waste my time in a futile attempt to > "teach them a lesson." > >>And slowing down to >>catch the light while you are still rolling can increase the average speed >>of traffic > > CAN. But not all practitioners are competent. Hence the distinction > between "Coasters" and "Sloth Coasters." I am sure you are the qualified to make the distinction. Of course in your mind anyone who is slowing you in the least is a sloth. >>However, it seems to me that your characterization >>of the SUV driver in your little story is just another case of you trying >>to >>demonize someone driving in a safe and reasonable manner (well except for >>possibly being an LLB - sounds like it was a busy surface street). At >>worst, >>he did nothing to interfere with you. > > Amazing how you can make that determination without having been there > yourself. How about telling us where Jimmy Hoffa is buried before your > clairvoyance wears off? I was just reading your information - "After a couple cars in the next lane turned off I managed to break free. The ultimate irony ensued when I sailed through the now-green signal at full speed, while the Sloth Coaster got stuck behind some dreamer in a Durango who had been stopped at the red light and failed to begin moving immediately when the light turned green." Seems to me that the SUV driver could have moved into the right lane before you and had to slow or stop for the turning traffic, or did exactly as he did - slow down as he approached a red light with a vehicle stopped in his lane. You were the one switching lanes and passing on the right. If the Durango had pulled off in a normal manner, what story would you have concocted? I am sure if the SUV driver had switched to the right lane, you'd have bitched about another sloth driver cutting you off and preventing you from sailing through the intersection at full speed. I suppose you would have been happier if the SUV driver had switched to the right lane, blazed up to the intersection at 55, skidded to a halt at the red light, and then pulled off with yourself trapped behind. Yeah right, I am sure that is what you would have wanted. You spend a lot of time creating stories that prove you are an inconsiderate and potentially dangerous driver. Grow up. > >>In fact it seems to me like you should >>have titled your little story, "How I cut off another diver and passed him >>on the right." > > How could I cut him off? I was stuck BEHIND him. Clearly you were not stuck behind him since you bragged about blowing by him. I am only guessing but your usual self described driving style leads me to believe you probably roared up on his rear end, cut into the right as soon as the turning traffic moved out of the lane before a reasonably competent driver had time to check his mirrors, signal his intentions, and make a legal lane change - i.e., you cut him off. Again just a guess, but I suspect a good one. It fits your self described rude behavior. Of course, I am sure you just see it as a great bit of driving. After all, it is all about you. Ed |
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:44:09 GMT, "Skip Elliott Bowman" > > wrote: > >>> Same here; I usually get the jump on the jerky drivers who haul ass to a >>> red light. >> >>I do this too. It works great on timed lights > > ...Which do not exist here in SoCal in any great numbers. And therein > lies the flaw in the whole Coaster concept: there absolutely no way to > tell from half a mile away when the light is going to change - yet > these Sloth Coasters smugly hold up traffic and think they're smarter > than everybody else. So instead they should roar up to the intersection at full speed, lock their brakes when the light doesn't change, and then set at a stop until it does change. Glad to see you are so smart. Do you every look in the mirror? Ed |
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