Haynes manual instructions

I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
(including shipping in eBay).

> ||I'd rather not have a manual than a haynes or a chiltons...
>
> You may get your wish. Many of the manufacturers no longer offer a manual to the
> owner. If they do, it may be a CD for $100 or more
>
> Haynes fills a need for reasonably-priced repair information specific to your
> car. It is correct far more than it is wrong. I have a number of Haynes
> manuals and have yet to find a procedure incorrectly documented. It is true
> that sometimes there is not enough info to answer the questions that come up,
> but for the money I'll accept that.
>
> I obtain a Haynes manual for every vehicle I acquire. If I can also get a FSM, I
> will, but that's a backup. The Haynes gets the grease smudges.
> Texas Parts Guy

sams wrote:
> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
> (including shipping in eBay).

I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
and year specific.

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')


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sams wrote:
> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
> (including shipping in eBay).

I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
and year specific.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')


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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:10:49 -0500, Bill Putney > wrote:

||sams wrote:
||> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
||> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
||> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
||> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
||> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
||> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
||> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
||> (including shipping in eBay).
||
||I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
||- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
||the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
||previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
||procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
||and year specific.

Bill
I will notify Haynes not to expect your re-order.


Texas Parts Guy

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:10:49 -0500, Bill Putney > wrote:

||sams wrote:
||> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
||> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
||> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
||> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
||> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
||> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
||> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
||> (including shipping in eBay).
||
||I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
||- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
||the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
||previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
||procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
||and year specific.

Bill
I will notify Haynes not to expect your re-order.


Texas Parts Guy

wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:10:49 -0500, Bill Putney > wrote:
>
> ||sams wrote:
> ||> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
> ||> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
> ||> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
> ||> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
> ||> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
> ||> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
> ||> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
> ||> (including shipping in eBay).
> ||
> ||I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
> ||- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
> ||the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
> ||previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
> ||procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
> ||and year specific.
>
> Bill
> I will notify Haynes not to expect your re-order.

Heh heh! You do that. 8^)

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')


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wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:10:49 -0500, Bill Putney > wrote:
>
> ||sams wrote:
> ||> I agree 100% with Texas Parts Guy. Last year I did a Timingbelt,
> ||> Waterpump, AFT replacement project around this time using Haynes. I
> ||> also had a Chiltons. I found the illustrations are more clear in
> ||> Haynes. Chiltons has more descriptions. Also I was posting and getting
> ||> help from this news group. I will be buying a Hayens if I change my
> ||> car. It may not be the most detailed manual like the Shop Manuals, but
> ||> it helped me to save over $600 for a small investment of $12
> ||> (including shipping in eBay).
> ||
> ||I tried to use a Haynes on an '87 Mazda for the timing belt. Guess what
> ||- they had the illustrations and procedures for the wrong engine because
> ||the engine for that model had been changed for that year from the
> ||previous one and they didn't reflect that - was totally useless for that
> ||procedure. The FSM would not have made that mistake because it is model
> ||and year specific.
>
> Bill
> I will notify Haynes not to expect your re-order.

Heh heh! You do that. 8^)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')


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Nedavno Bill 2 pise:

| > >This should be included with every Haynes manual sold:
| > >http://u225.torque.net/haynes_instructions.html
| >
| > While they are not the best choice, they are not quite that bad.
|
| Actually yes they are. They are filled with so much incorrect,
| incomplete information that your money is better spent paying a couple
| bucks more for the factory service manual.

I have 1977 Puch Maxi, and was happy to find Haynes manual for it (from
1973) on amazon.com. Never even heard about Haynes until I joined this
group. I am completely disappointed with it as this seems to be a
"complete idiots guide" to disassemble and assemble it's engine. OK, not
quite, but I hoped for much more details.

I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and BMW.
Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-)



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Nedavno Bill 2 pise:

| > >This should be included with every Haynes manual sold:
| > >http://u225.torque.net/haynes_instructions.html
| >
| > While they are not the best choice, they are not quite that bad.
|
| Actually yes they are. They are filled with so much incorrect,
| incomplete information that your money is better spent paying a couple
| bucks more for the factory service manual.

I have 1977 Puch Maxi, and was happy to find Haynes manual for it (from
1973) on amazon.com. Never even heard about Haynes until I joined this
group. I am completely disappointed with it as this seems to be a
"complete idiots guide" to disassemble and assemble it's engine. OK, not
quite, but I hoped for much more details.

I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and BMW.
Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-)



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Highly doubtful. In fact, probably worse.

Bite the bullet and get the Factory Service Manual's.



Yvan wrote:
> I ordered directly from haynes.co.uk manual for both my Audi and BMW.
> Hope they are better than this one from '73 :-)
>
>
>