{OT} -- Computer Problem

Well, I have had no success on my update. I cannot get the nvidia
drivers to work on my system so an AGP fast graphics card will work. I
even got the chipset update for the board and the newest drivers and no
way. It is a slow pig when it even will boot up.

The old Trident PCI video card works at light speed in comparison.

Oh well.

Mike

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> of The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number
>> of different tasks.
>>
>> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> faster.
>>
>> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>> what my strategy will be.
>>
>> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>> if it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to
>> do restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that
>> is on the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I
>> will restore from.
>>
>> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>>
>
> I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long
> ago. They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the
> Control Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the
> Registry and removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I
> uninstalled McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like
> it should. Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes
> (this is a project that would have taken days, assuming one would
> tolerate the pain that long).
>
> Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
> license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
> after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
>
> I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
> wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
> "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
>
>
> NEW QUESTION
> The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
> can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff
> to the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on
> other machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd
> like to understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the
> Registry. I'm thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what
> I am looking for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with
> "dummies" in the title ...)
>
>
>
>
>

MIke

I have a ASUS 440BX motherboard on my home-bulit pc with an NVida G
force2 AGP card.
While it's an old machine with only 386mb ram running windowes xp it
does now sound as slow as what your describe.

I'm using these drivers
Nv4_mini.sys
Nv4-disp.dll
Drivers are dated 4/7/04

Not sure if the drivers for xp and 98 are the same





Mike Romain wrote:
> Well, I have had no success on my update. I cannot get the nvidia
> drivers to work on my system so an AGP fast graphics card will work. I
> even got the chipset update for the board and the newest drivers and no
> way. It is a slow pig when it even will boot up.
>
> The old Trident PCI video card works at light speed in comparison.
>
> Oh well.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
> > news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
> >> I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
> >> of The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number
> >> of different tasks.
> >>
> >> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
> >> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
> >> faster.
> >>
> >> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
> >> what my strategy will be.
> >>
> >> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
> >> if it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to
> >> do restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that
> >> is on the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I
> >> will restore from.
> >>
> >> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
> >>
> >
> > I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long
> > ago. They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the
> > Control Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the
> > Registry and removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I
> > uninstalled McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like
> > it should. Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes
> > (this is a project that would have taken days, assuming one would
> > tolerate the pain that long).
> >
> > Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
> > license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
> > after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
> >
> > I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
> > wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
> > "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
> >
> >
> > NEW QUESTION
> > The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
> > can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff
> > to the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on
> > other machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd
> > like to understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the
> > Registry. I'm thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what
> > I am looking for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with
> > "dummies" in the title ...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

I tried and tried over the last few days to get mine running. I have
the ASUS CUV4X board with the VIA chipset trying to run two different
flavors of AGP cards. One is the Nvidia TNT 128 and the other is the
Nvidia Geforce2 MX/MX 400.

I tried installing the newest VIA chipset drivers and AGP driver from
ASUS and made sure my bios was the latest. No go.

It is totally insane the speed difference using the old PCI trident S3
card. For the first time in years I could even go online while my
Norton antivirus was doing it's sweep last night and it acted like a
computer should, not having to wait 30 seconds or more for each inch of
mouse travel, let along being able to open a screen instantly instead of
having time to brew coffee.

Mike

ufatbastehd wrote:
> MIke
>
> I have a ASUS 440BX motherboard on my home-bulit pc with an NVida G
> force2 AGP card.
> While it's an old machine with only 386mb ram running windowes xp it
> does now sound as slow as what your describe.
>
> I'm using these drivers
> Nv4_mini.sys
> Nv4-disp.dll
> Drivers are dated 4/7/04
>
> Not sure if the drivers for xp and 98 are the same
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Well, I have had no success on my update. I cannot get the nvidia
>> drivers to work on my system so an AGP fast graphics card will work. I
>> even got the chipset update for the board and the newest drivers and no
>> way. It is a slow pig when it even will boot up.
>>
>> The old Trident PCI video card works at light speed in comparison.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
>>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>>>> I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>>>> of The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number
>>>> of different tasks.
>>>>
>>>> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>>>> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>>>> faster.
>>>>
>>>> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>>>> what my strategy will be.
>>>>
>>>> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>>>> if it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to
>>>> do restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that
>>>> is on the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I
>>>> will restore from.
>>>>
>>>> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>>>>
>>> I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long
>>> ago. They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the
>>> Control Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the
>>> Registry and removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I
>>> uninstalled McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like
>>> it should. Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes
>>> (this is a project that would have taken days, assuming one would
>>> tolerate the pain that long).
>>>
>>> Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
>>> license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
>>> after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
>>>
>>> I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
>>> wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
>>> "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
>>>
>>>
>>> NEW QUESTION
>>> The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
>>> can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff
>>> to the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on
>>> other machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd
>>> like to understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the
>>> Registry. I'm thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what
>>> I am looking for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with
>>> "dummies" in the title ...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> snip>

Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
switched to Linux, or Mac?

I'm running Firefox and Thunderbird on MEPIS 6.04 beta 3 (linux). The
beta 3 MEPIS puts out is better than most other distributions final
versions. And 6.04 final is due out by the end of the month. No spyware,
no virius, and never having to defrag thanks to the ext3 file system :-)
It's free for downloading or if you're on dial-up you can get a CD
shipped to you for hundreds less than XP or Vista.

user wrote:
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> snip>
>
> Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
> switched to Linux, or Mac?

--
FRH

> Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
> switched to Linux, or Mac?

Yep, using an Ibook. Somewhere upthread someone was talking about a
linux setup.


user wrote:
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> snip>
>
> Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
> switched to Linux, or Mac?

--
ÐÏࡱá

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:38:38 -0500, Mike Romain >
wrote:

>Well, I have had no success on my update. I cannot get the nvidia
>drivers to work on my system so an AGP fast graphics card will work. I
>even got the chipset update for the board and the newest drivers and no
>way. It is a slow pig when it even will boot up.
>
>The old Trident PCI video card works at light speed in comparison.
>
>Oh well.
>
>Mike
>

Ive missed something here, but, what video card are you trying to get
working?

Regardless, if the latest drivers don't work, look for older drivers,
especially if its an older card. This is a common issue with Nvidia
cards.

....



>Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>>> I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>>> of The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number
>>> of different tasks.
>>>
>>> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>>> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>>> faster.
>>>
>>> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>>> what my strategy will be.
>>>
>>> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>>> if it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to
>>> do restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that
>>> is on the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I
>>> will restore from.
>>>
>>> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>>>
>>
>> I found a couple of legacy programs that should have uninstalled long
>> ago. They still remain in the Add or Remove Programs section of the
>> Control Panel, and they would not go away from there. I went into the
>> Registry and removed all of the "calls" to the errant programs, then I
>> uninstalled McAfee Internet Security Suite. Now the machine works like
>> it should. Since we last talked, I've loaded a dozen CDs into iTunes
>> (this is a project that would have taken days, assuming one would
>> tolerate the pain that long).
>>
>> Somebody here offered up WinASO as a Registry Cleaner. I bought a 5-site
>> license and am pleased with the product. Well, as pleased as one can be
>> after messing with something for a couple of hours. Thanks for that ...
>>
>> I cleaned up hundreds of "registry errors" in three machines so far, my
>> wife's machine had 1750 total errors, more than 200 of them ranked as
>> "serious" by WinASO Registry Optimizer.
>>
>>
>> NEW QUESTION
>> The Registry has a structure. Are there any resources out there where I
>> can look up what the structure is, and then I would be able to do stuff
>> to the Registry with less stress. I've done surgery to the Registry on
>> other machines, and on one I turned the machine into a paper wieght. I'd
>> like to understand what I'm looking at when I poke around in the
>> Registry. I'm thinking a book titled Registry for Dummies would be what
>> I am looking for. (I resist the temptation to buy anything with
>> "dummies" in the title ...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Hey Frank,
how much trouble is linux to install/maintain? I'd say I have average
computer skills, FWIW

Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> I'm running Firefox and Thunderbird on MEPIS 6.04 beta 3 (linux). The
> beta 3 MEPIS puts out is better than most other distributions final
> versions. And 6.04 final is due out by the end of the month. No spyware,
> no virius, and never having to defrag thanks to the ext3 file system :-)
> It's free for downloading or if you're on dial-up you can get a CD
> shipped to you for hundreds less than XP or Vista.
>
> user wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> snip>
>>
>> Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
>> switched to Linux, or Mac?
>

--
ÐÏࡱá

Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> I'm running Firefox and Thunderbird on MEPIS 6.04 beta 3 (linux). The
> beta 3 MEPIS puts out is better than most other distributions final
> versions. And 6.04 final is due out by the end of the month. No
> spyware, no virius, and never having to defrag thanks to the ext3
> file system :-) It's free for downloading or if you're on dial-up you
> can get a CD shipped to you for hundreds less than XP or Vista.
>
> user wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> snip>
>>
>> Has anybody else here got fed up enough with Microsoft products and
>> switched to Linux, or Mac?
>
Thanks, Frank_v7.0!
I wanted to write the same thing but without it sounding like a
"Neener, neener, neener" type of statement. And, no, you didn't make it
sound that way either.
It's just that I have been running several distros of Linux for the
last 6 years and have had no problems that the Microsofties are saying
they are having. For the last 5 months I have been running PCLinuxOS.93,
waiting patiently for .94 Started my Linux experience with Mandrake
8.0. Played with Suse, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Gentoo, and now PCLinuxOS,
My wife runs her computers with Microsoft products flawlessly and she
even has a couple Macs with OSX that I want to try to learn.

noneofyourbusiness wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:38:38 -0500, Mike Romain >
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I have had no success on my update. I cannot get the nvidia
>> drivers to work on my system so an AGP fast graphics card will work. I
>> even got the chipset update for the board and the newest drivers and no
>> way. It is a slow pig when it even will boot up.
>>
>> The old Trident PCI video card works at light speed in comparison.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Ive missed something here, but, what video card are you trying to get
> working?
>
> Regardless, if the latest drivers don't work, look for older drivers,
> especially if its an older card. This is a common issue with Nvidia
> cards.
>
> ...

I tried the 2002 Nvidia drivers and the 2005 ones with worse results.
Same deal for the Motherboard chipset update.

The cards are a Hercules 3D Prophet II MX dual display video and a
Creative labs # CT6710 RIVA 128 TNT card.

I am totally amazed at how fast my old PCI card is in comparison. More
than tenfold even on the POST tests and bios read at startup.

Mike