134a Refrigerant

OK, perhaps the eco-nazis have done us in again.
In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
price.
I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.

Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
bootleg R12 and switch back?

thats really strange to hear. Also, du pont is not the only one who makes
134a, just a perticular brand of 134a. Try a wholesale refrigeration shop
or sales house. Or try Schucks or Napa online, and you could probably
order it and have it sent to your house. I know here in washington state,
I can walk into the parts store (did the other day) and they have shelves
full of 134a....
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by the way, R-12 right now is going for about $900.00 a pound, so I don't
think you want to go back to that.
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I buy refrigerants exclusively from refrigeration houses, and there
134A is in no shortage.

"Robb S via CarKB.com" > wrote in message
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> R-12 right now is going for about $900.00 a pound

you were exaggerating to make a point, right?

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Not at all. Refrigerant R-12 in the usa, Washington state anyways, is
going around roughly $800-$900 us dollars per pound. It's the number 1
smuggled item across the mexican border besides drugs I am told by people
in the industry.
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That's a thirty pound bottle: http://www.billhughes.com/R12.jpg
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"Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Not at all. Refrigerant R-12 in the usa, Washington state anyways, is
> going around roughly $800-$900 us dollars per pound. It's the number 1
> smuggled item across the mexican border besides drugs I am told by people
> in the industry.
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> Robb
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"Robb S via CarKB.com" > wrote in message
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> It's the number 1
> smuggled item across the mexican border besides drugs I am told by people
> in the industry.

im not saying that what you say isnt true, but its ridiculous considering
the many available alternatives. for those that are still running 12
systems, even hot shot has a lower boiling point than 12 (cools better than
12). youd be amazed at what you can do with propane. :-)

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Hi Sandman,
Sure he's exaggerating, and I see it being sold for about half the
four hundred I paid Pep Boys for it ten years ago:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
I saw a big SWAT team action on the San Diego border over a bottle,
killed them dead. What can you buy if for, and from what country?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Robb S via CarKB.com" > wrote in message
> ...
> > R-12 right now is going for about $900.00 a pound
>
> you were exaggerating to make a point, right?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> What can you buy if for, and from what country?

i havent bought any in awhile but its nowhere near $900 a pound. besides,
it just doesnt make any sense to buy 12 when you have so many other choices,
and many are superior to 12 at a fraction of the cost. 414b ("hot shot") is
a perfect example, as is 416a. i would even run 502 before spending the
money for 12.

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