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frame rust--how to fix?
I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding
disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too. I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94 Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter gets cold here. Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray paint? I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it gets too cold. Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted vehicle... <g> Abe |
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Abeness wrote: > > I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding > disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too. > I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear > doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges > attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94 > Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter > gets cold here. > > Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it > isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I > put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching > the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors > are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray > paint? > > I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me > to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it > gets too cold. > > Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same > from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted > vehicle... <g> > > Abe It's too late. IT's the rust that you don't see that will do you, er, the car in. Hondas rust and I know of no way to prevent it other than living in a dry warm climate. If I were you, I would cosmetically fix the problem if appearance is an issue and start saving for another car. If you're buying used, sometimes it is worth buying the same model for a rust free area such as the SW US and saving your running gear as spare parts... -- JT (Now residing in Austin, Texas and never deals with rust anymore!) |
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Abeness wrote:
> I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding > disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too. > I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear > doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges > attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94 > Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter > gets cold here. > > Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it > isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I > put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching > the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors > are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray > paint? > > I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me > to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it > gets too cold. > > Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same > from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted > vehicle... <g> > > Abe Do A Google Search "auto rust prevention" Grumble |
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Grumpy au Contraire wrote:
> > Abeness wrote: > >>I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding >>disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too. >>I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear >>doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges >>attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94 >>Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter >>gets cold here. >> >>Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it >>isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I >>put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching >>the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors >>are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray >>paint? >> >>I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me >>to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it >>gets too cold. >> >>Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same >>from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted >>vehicle... <g> >> >>Abe > > > > > It's too late. IT's the rust that you don't see that will do you, er, > the car in. Hondas rust and I know of no way to prevent it other than > living in a dry warm climate. > > If I were you, I would cosmetically fix the problem if appearance is an > issue and start saving for another car. If you're buying used, > sometimes it is worth buying the same model for a rust free area such as > the SW US and saving your running gear as spare parts... > > If it is just surface rust on the door pillar, then just sand it down and paint it with Rustoleum, or something called Zinc It, made by Rustoleum, which provides a zinc-rich coating that will give rust something to chew on other than the structural steel in your car. What will really kill your car though is rust through on the gusseting on the underbody. I brought an '87 Prelude a while back with the intention of fixing it up, and driving it as a beater. I only discovered how bad it was after buying several hundred dollars worth of parts, and really getting underneath to work on the brakes and front end. I ended up having it hauled away, along with all of its expensive new parts. I learned a hard lesson about inspecting a car thoroughly before writing the check! This type of rust usually starts on the inside, and by the time it breaks through to the outside, it's too late. The only way you may be able to buy some time is to weld or braze new metal in, but often the worst areas are inaccessable, or will require the interior to be gutted for the operation. This was the case with the Prelude. |
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Abeness wrote:
> I know absolutely nothing about body work, though I've used a sanding > disc and wire brushes before. I have rotary brushes for my drill, too. > I've got a bit of rust on the frame column between the front and rear > doors on the driver's side, around where the passenger door hinges > attach to the frame. Since this is practically the only rust on a '94 > Civic I'd like to stop it before it gets any worse and before winter > gets cold here. > > Once I take the door off I assume I just sand the rust down, hoping it > isn't so serious that I weaken the frame in doing so, but what should I > put on it to stop the rust I can't get out? I don't care about matching > the body color afterwards, as this area is visible only when the doors > are open. Is there an anti-rust primer, then I'd cover that with spray > paint? > > I may also run down to the local body shop to see what they'd charge me > to do it, since I don't have a lot of time to deal with this before it > gets too cold. > > Last car I had was a rusted hulk, so I kinda want to prevent the same > from happening here. It's a novel thing for me to be driving an unrusted > vehicle... <g> > > Abe Another thing you can do to delay the day of reckoning if you suspect rust within is to spray a penetrating type oil, such as WD-40, Zepreserve, or the like into the cavities such as door pillars, door and fender bottoms, tailgates, the inside of the wheel arches, etc, where rust can get a foothold. You may have to drill an access hole or remove some interior panels to get to some spots, however. Repeat this every year or so, and see how long you can make it last. |
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Thanks, guys, for all the suggestions. Truth is that all cars rust, not
just Hondas--you shoulda seen my old Pontiac rustbuket of a wagon. Thing there was that themetal was so damn thick and well-layered that pounds of metal could fall out and the thing still held together. My new Honda is a heck of lot lighter, though, so what I'm really trying to do is delay the inevitable. I actually can't believe the thing is as rust free as it is, after its former life in Buffalo, NY. |
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