88 sport

Hi,
New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to stay
away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes and
the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
Thanks

4 cyl or 6? 6 cyl Will have the dreaded Pugot tranny, the same one that
give me no trouble in my '87. 4cyl will have Asian 5 which is not great,
not bad.

As for the plow, I'm less concerned about the drivetrain than the frame
and mounts. The Jeep is pretty lightweight for plowing, it tends to bang
around, spin, and slide before you really load up the drivetrain. I have
doubts that any serious plowing got done with the Jeep, more likely it
was for sidewalks, owner's drive (an a couple neighbors), etc.

calhoun wrote:
> Hi,
> New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to stay
> away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
> plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes and
> the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
> Thanks
>
>

"calhoun" > wrote in
:

> Hi,
> New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told
> to stay away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I
> have plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll
> plowing takes and the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to
> plow with. Thanks
>
I would be concerned too.

I personally would never buy a vehicle someone used as a plow..... that is
pretty much an admission it has been abused.


"calhoun" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
> New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
> stay away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
> plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes
> and the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
> Thanks
>

I'd be more concerned with buying a Jeep with a 3" body lift and 2"
shackle lift than a plow.

billy ray wrote:

> I personally would never buy a vehicle someone used as a plow..... that is
> pretty much an admission it has been abused.
>
>
> "calhoun" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Hi,
>>New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
>>stay away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
>>This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
>>plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes
>>and the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
>>Thanks
>>
>
>
>

Quite true, I would not buy a lifted vehicle or a stock one that had been
used off road.


"RoyJ" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> I'd be more concerned with buying a Jeep with a 3" body lift and 2"
> shackle lift than a plow.
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>> I personally would never buy a vehicle someone used as a plow..... that
>> is pretty much an admission it has been abused.
>>
>>
>> "calhoun" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
>>>stay away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
>>>This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
>>>plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes
>>>and the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>
>>

We have that 'dreaded' tranny in our 88 and 87 Cherokees. One has 315K
km and the other has 385K km on it. Both seem to work very well.

It is the crap design clutch that is the pain. Internal slave....

I personally wouldn't buy a plow vehicle, especially one that old.... If
I were to consider it, I would take it to a Jeep shop for a full
inspection first. That would be a well spent 50 or $100.00....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

calhoun wrote:
>
> Hi,
> New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to stay
> away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
> plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes and
> the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
> Thanks

Heh, I agree with Mike and anyone else who recommended not buying a plow
vehicle. It's not just the drive train either. That body is probably
warped, metal fatigued, spot welds popped...

Off road vehicles too.

Earle

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> We have that 'dreaded' tranny in our 88 and 87 Cherokees. One has 315K
> km and the other has 385K km on it. Both seem to work very well.
>
> It is the crap design clutch that is the pain. Internal slave....
>
> I personally wouldn't buy a plow vehicle, especially one that old.... If
> I were to consider it, I would take it to a Jeep shop for a full
> inspection first. That would be a well spent 50 or $100.00....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> calhoun wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
stay
> > away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> > This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
> > plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes
and
> > the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
> > Thanks

I have to take exception with "I'd not reccomnend......." Sure I'd love
to find a '79 CJ5 with disk brakes, power steering, 304 V-8, T18a tranny
with granny gear, boxed frame, never driven in snow and salt, 10 k
miles, no modifactations except for the unused Warn winch, not a spec
of rust, that had been stored for the last 20 years up on blocks, and
had never been either off road or used in any other abusive situation
(like plowing). And of course the price should be half what I paid for
my YJ. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! So you have to pick your poison and deal
with it.

I've seen Jeep plow rigs used at a lake cabin that are used twice a
winter max. All you guys that won't buy one with a plow just lower the
price enough so that I can buy it cheap and sell the plow and I get the
Jeep for a song. Of course you have to know what to look for, I've also
seen wildly abused pickups used for plowing that crab 4" over, bent
frame, multiple welds on the front frame members, etc. That's what
happens when you put 2000 pounds of sand in the bed, try and plow gravel
drives at 15 to 20 mph.



Earle Horton wrote:
> Heh, I agree with Mike and anyone else who recommended not buying a plow
> vehicle. It's not just the drive train either. That body is probably
> warped, metal fatigued, spot welds popped...
>
> Off road vehicles too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>We have that 'dreaded' tranny in our 88 and 87 Cherokees. One has 315K
>>km and the other has 385K km on it. Both seem to work very well.
>>
>>It is the crap design clutch that is the pain. Internal slave....
>>
>>I personally wouldn't buy a plow vehicle, especially one that old.... If
>>I were to consider it, I would take it to a Jeep shop for a full
>>inspection first. That would be a well spent 50 or $100.00....
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>calhoun wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
>
> stay
>
>>>away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
>>>This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I have
>>>plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing takes
>
> and
>
>>>the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
>>>Thanks
>
>
>

You can still find plenty of rigs that never saw a plow or even a gravel
road. I am not saying that a plow rig might not be a good bargain, but
statistically they are the last ones you should be looking at.

Earle

"RoyJ" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> I have to take exception with "I'd not reccomnend......." Sure I'd love
> to find a '79 CJ5 with disk brakes, power steering, 304 V-8, T18a tranny
> with granny gear, boxed frame, never driven in snow and salt, 10 k
> miles, no modifactations except for the unused Warn winch, not a spec
> of rust, that had been stored for the last 20 years up on blocks, and
> had never been either off road or used in any other abusive situation
> (like plowing). And of course the price should be half what I paid for
> my YJ. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! So you have to pick your poison and deal
> with it.
>
> I've seen Jeep plow rigs used at a lake cabin that are used twice a
> winter max. All you guys that won't buy one with a plow just lower the
> price enough so that I can buy it cheap and sell the plow and I get the
> Jeep for a song. Of course you have to know what to look for, I've also
> seen wildly abused pickups used for plowing that crab 4" over, bent
> frame, multiple welds on the front frame members, etc. That's what
> happens when you put 2000 pounds of sand in the bed, try and plow gravel
> drives at 15 to 20 mph.
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Heh, I agree with Mike and anyone else who recommended not buying a plow
> > vehicle. It's not just the drive train either. That body is probably
> > warped, metal fatigued, spot welds popped...
> >
> > Off road vehicles too.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>We have that 'dreaded' tranny in our 88 and 87 Cherokees. One has 315K
> >>km and the other has 385K km on it. Both seem to work very well.
> >>
> >>It is the crap design clutch that is the pain. Internal slave....
> >>
> >>I personally wouldn't buy a plow vehicle, especially one that old.... If
> >>I were to consider it, I would take it to a Jeep shop for a full
> >>inspection first. That would be a well spent 50 or $100.00....
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >>calhoun wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>New to jeeps. Looking at a nice 1988 sport 5 speed. I have been told to
> >
> > stay
> >
> >>>away from 89s do to a weak tranny. Is this true for 88s also?
> >>>This jeep has a plow so I am very concerned about the drivetrain. I
have
> >>>plowed for years with 1 ton pickups and have seen the toll plowing
takes
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>the drivetrains. Jeep seems so small and light to plow with.
> >>>Thanks
> >
> >
> >