1982 CJ-7

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Three inches?????? I know you're exaggerating, but most of that is
> in bad engine mounts:
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Norman wrote:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > The mount that holds the transfer case to the frame is loose. When I
put a
> > wrench on the plug to check the transfer case gear oil level I was able
to
> > move/slide the entire assembly about 3 inches left and right. I'm sure
that
> > the awful noise that I heard was the case banging from side to side.
> >
> > I thank you all for helping me track down the problem and eliminate
other
> > items. My front U joints were in bad shape too.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Norman
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When I jerked hard, I could slide it about 3 inches each way from the
center. I'll be buying motor mounts this weekend too. Thanks Bill!

Norman

Norman wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I still am putting my money on a u-joint.... Two more to go up there...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:
> > >
> > > I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
> > > Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
> > > make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
> > > the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
> > > by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> > >
> > > Norman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear
> with the
> > > > engine running.
> > > >
> > > > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bill,
> > > > Norman
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> The mount that holds the transfer case to the frame is loose. When I put a
> wrench on the plug to check the transfer case gear oil level I was able to
> move/slide the entire assembly about 3 inches left and right. I'm sure that
> the awful noise that I heard was the case banging from side to side.
>
> I thank you all for helping me track down the problem and eliminate other
> items. My front U joints were in bad shape too.
>
> Sincerely,
> Norman

Thanks for the update. That just happened to our Cherokee too. It
started making really bad noises when making a right turn. The t-case
was/is sliding enough to let the exhaust header down pipe hit the
driveshaft u-joint.

Mike

Our Cherokee's tranny is moving more than that right now Bill!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:
>
> Three inches?????? I know you're exaggerating, but most of that is
> in bad engine mounts:
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Norman wrote:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > The mount that holds the transfer case to the frame is loose. When I put a
> > wrench on the plug to check the transfer case gear oil level I was able to
> > move/slide the entire assembly about 3 inches left and right. I'm sure that
> > the awful noise that I heard was the case banging from side to side.
> >
> > I thank you all for helping me track down the problem and eliminate other
> > items. My front U joints were in bad shape too.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Norman

Hi Norman,
Please send pictures, I bet you'll be able to out do DougW here for
procrastination: http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/motormount/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/


Norman wrote:
>
> ------------------------------------
> When I jerked hard, I could slide it about 3 inches each way from the
> center. I'll be buying motor mounts this weekend too. Thanks Bill!
>
> Norman

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Norman wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I still am putting my money on a u-joint.... Two more to go up
there...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while
the
> > > > Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how
we
> > > > make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing.
Pull
> > > > the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the
pinion
> > > > by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear
> > with the
> > > > > engine running.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Bill,
> > > > > Norman
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > The mount that holds the transfer case to the frame is loose. When I
put a
> > wrench on the plug to check the transfer case gear oil level I was able
to
> > move/slide the entire assembly about 3 inches left and right. I'm sure
that
> > the awful noise that I heard was the case banging from side to side.
> >
> > I thank you all for helping me track down the problem and eliminate
other
> > items. My front U joints were in bad shape too.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Norman
>
> Thanks for the update. That just happened to our Cherokee too. It
> started making really bad noises when making a right turn. The t-case
> was/is sliding enough to let the exhaust header down pipe hit the
> driveshaft u-joint.
>
> Mike
---------------
You are welcome Mike. I'll post again once I get the new mounts in.

Norman

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Norman,
> Please send pictures, I bet you'll be able to out do DougW here for
> procrastination: http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/motormount/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
>
> Norman wrote:
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > When I jerked hard, I could slide it about 3 inches each way from the
> > center. I'll be buying motor mounts this weekend too. Thanks Bill!
> >
> > Norman
---------------------------

OK Bill, and thanks for the link.

Norman

Norman wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I wish you had tested while the driveshaft was out to leave the
>>front ring and pinion out of the equation. Will the transfer make any
>>noise while in transfer is in neutral, engine running transmission in
>>gear?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/
>>
>>Norman wrote:
>>
>>>I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
>>>without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>>>
>>>Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I
>
> check
>
>>>the mounts next?
>>>
>>>I appreciate the guidance.
>>>
>>>Norman
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?

Did you check the transmission mount? there's a rubber pad that holds
the tail of the transmission off the skid plate. 23 years of leaking
motor oil and exhaust heat turns it into bubblegum. If the mount is bad
it will let the front yoke hit the tranny tunnel -- when you step on the
gas. Testing is simple: Put your legs under the jeep, put a foot on
the rear yoke and shove. Harder. Now try the other side. If it moves,
it failed.

hey Norm, you said you drove or moved to washington state, what city do you
live in? I'm in North Bend, wa
Norman wrote:
>"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Norman,
>> If you can't find an obvious loose universal joint, then I'd find a
>[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Norman
>---------------------------------
>Hello Bill,
>
>There's nothing loose, so I'll get her to a garage and on a rack this week.
>Thank you very much.
>
>Sincerely,
>Norman
>

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"Lee Ayrton" > wrote in message
...
> Norman wrote:
> > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> I wish you had tested while the driveshaft was out to leave the
> >>front ring and pinion out of the equation. Will the transfer make any
> >>noise while in transfer is in neutral, engine running transmission in
> >>gear?
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
> >>
> >>Norman wrote:
> >>
> >>>I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> >>>without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
> >>>
> >>>Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I
> >
> > check
> >
> >>>the mounts next?
> >>>
> >>>I appreciate the guidance.
> >>>
> >>>Norman
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with
the
> > engine running.
> >
> > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Did you check the transmission mount? there's a rubber pad that holds
> the tail of the transmission off the skid plate. 23 years of leaking
> motor oil and exhaust heat turns it into bubblegum. If the mount is bad
> it will let the front yoke hit the tranny tunnel -- when you step on the
> gas. Testing is simple: Put your legs under the jeep, put a foot on
> the rear yoke and shove. Harder. Now try the other side. If it moves,
> it failed.
>
---------------------------------
Hello Lee,

You were correct. It is the mount. Using a bar, I can move the transfer
case enough to make the yoke hit the tunnel.

Thanks,
Norman

"Robb S via CarKB.com" > wrote in message
...
>
> hey Norm, you said you drove or moved to washington state, what city do
you
> live in? I'm in North Bend, wa
> Norman wrote:
> >"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi Norman,
> >> If you can't find an obvious loose universal joint, then I'd find
a
> >[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> > Norman
> >---------------------------------
> >Hello Bill,
> >
> >There's nothing loose, so I'll get her to a garage and on a rack this
week.
> >Thank you very much.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Norman
> >
>
> --
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I'm in Spokane. I'll have to look up North Bend.

New here,

Norman