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Winter tires
I am running the Michelin Artic Alpin 4x4 on my 2001 Pathfinder SE
(3.5L w/ 5 speed). Here is my review after one full winter: Good tire in dry (quiet - much more so than the stock Toyo's). They do walk a little in pitted out highway situations and over metal grated bridges. This is expected with all the siping in the tire. Let's face it you don't buy a 4x4 to be a racer, however when pushed hard around turns this tire feels solid. Good tire in the rain - we get plenty of it out here and lately I drive this car more in the rain (semi-retired from year round biking to work, hope to come out of retirement next year :-) ). Additionally, I was looking for a tire that had good tread wear and review pointed this way (check out tirerack.com for a bunch of reviews). Great tire in snow, we get plenty of it on Mt. Hood (not so far this year) and central OR. We also get a lot of variable conditions from tons of near freezing wet to black ice. This tire inspires confidence. Running my Toyos for the first two winters, I couldn't wait to get into 4x4 mode and had a couple of scary 50 mph slips on black ice. None of that with the artic alpin. I almost never have the abs kick in either, again not the case with the stock Toyo's (which is like comparing apples to oranges, but the only 2 tires I have ever had on this SUV). Driving style Generally I drive pretty fast but always with large stopping distances. I would recommend this tire as an excellent winter tire. I have had Blizzaks on a Volvo and would attest to the fact that they wear out too quickly. Not sure the longevity of the Artic Alpin 4x4 as of yet. Thinking about getting a set of winter Michelins for a BMW 525i. The only other winter tire that I have heard great reviews on is the Nokian Hakka..., volvo purests in Vermont would run nothing but on their 240 wagons, that is another story (go MRG!). Francois Langdeau wrote: > Stephen > > I'm in Montreal myself and I am debating the best choice for my > Pathfinder. Trying to find information in the 'net did not help very > much. > > So, my choice right now is between the Alpin 4x4 or the new Geolander > I/T. But I cannot find much to help. Anybody here would know where to > look or informations to help narrowing down the choice ? Even > alternatives are welcomed at this stage. At least I know that the Alpin > is not a bad choice. > > But between the 2, wich will last longer ? > Which one is quieter ? > Performs better on ice ? > > Not too concerned about traction in the snow per say. > > Thanks to all, > > Francois. |
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I am running the Michelin Artic Alpin 4x4 on my 2001 Pathfinder SE
(3.5L w/ 5 speed). Here is my review after one full winter: Good tire in dry (quiet - much more so than the stock Toyo's). They do walk a little in pitted out highway situations and over metal grated bridges. This is expected with all the siping in the tire. Let's face it you don't buy a 4x4 to be a racer, however when pushed hard around turns this tire feels solid. Good tire in the rain - we get plenty of it out here and lately I drive this car more in the rain (semi-retired from year round biking to work, hope to come out of retirement next year :-) ). Additionally, I was looking for a tire that had good tread wear and review pointed this way (check out tirerack.com for a bunch of reviews). Great tire in snow, we get plenty of it on Mt. Hood (not so far this year) and central OR. We also get a lot of variable conditions from tons of near freezing wet to black ice. This tire inspires confidence. Running my Toyos for the first two winters, I couldn't wait to get into 4x4 mode and had a couple of scary 50 mph slips on black ice. None of that with the artic alpin. I almost never have the abs kick in either, again not the case with the stock Toyo's (which is like comparing apples to oranges, but the only 2 tires I have ever had on this SUV). Driving style Generally I drive pretty fast but always with large stopping distances. I would recommend this tire as an excellent winter tire. I have had Blizzaks on a Volvo and would attest to the fact that they wear out too quickly. Not sure the longevity of the Artic Alpin 4x4 as of yet. Thinking about getting a set of winter Michelins for a BMW 525i. The only other winter tire that I have heard great reviews on is the Nokian Hakka..., volvo purests in Vermont would run nothing but on their 240 wagons, that is another story (go MRG!). Francois Langdeau wrote: > Stephen > > I'm in Montreal myself and I am debating the best choice for my > Pathfinder. Trying to find information in the 'net did not help very > much. > > So, my choice right now is between the Alpin 4x4 or the new Geolander > I/T. But I cannot find much to help. Anybody here would know where to > look or informations to help narrowing down the choice ? Even > alternatives are welcomed at this stage. At least I know that the Alpin > is not a bad choice. > > But between the 2, wich will last longer ? > Which one is quieter ? > Performs better on ice ? > > Not too concerned about traction in the snow per say. > > Thanks to all, > > Francois. |
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>>>>> "com" == com <pjjohnsen> writes:
com> I am running the Michelin Artic Alpin 4x4 on my 2001 com> Pathfinder SE (3.5L w/ 5 speed). Here is my review after one com> full winter: Good tire in dry (quiet - much more so than the com> stock Toyo's). They do walk a little in pitted out highway com> situations and over metal grated bridges. This is expected com> with all the siping in the tire. Let's face it you don't buy com> a 4x4 to be a racer, however when pushed hard around turns com> this tire feels solid. Good tire in the rain - we get plenty com> of it out here and lately I drive this car more in the rain com> (semi-retired from year round biking to work, hope to come com> out of retirement next year :-) ). Additionally, I was com> looking for a tire that had good tread wear and review com> pointed this way (check out tirerack.com for a bunch of com> reviews). Great tire in snow, we get plenty of it on com> Mt. Hood (not so far this year) and central OR. We also get com> a lot of variable conditions from tons of near freezing wet com> to black ice. This tire inspires confidence. Running my com> Toyos for the first two winters, I couldn't wait to get into com> 4x4 mode and had a couple of scary 50 mph slips on black ice. com> None of that with the artic alpin. I almost never have the com> abs kick in either, again not the case with the stock Toyo's com> (which is like comparing apples to oranges, but the only 2 com> tires I have ever had on this SUV). Driving style Generally com> I drive pretty fast but always with large stopping distances. com> I would recommend this tire as an excellent winter tire. I com> have had Blizzaks on a Volvo and would attest to the fact com> that they wear out too quickly. Not sure the longevity of the com> Artic Alpin 4x4 as of yet. Thinking about getting a set of com> winter Michelins for a BMW 525i. The only other winter tire com> that I have heard great reviews on is the Nokian Hakka..., com> volvo purests in Vermont would run nothing but on their 240 com> wagons, that is another story (go MRG!). Hi, Interesting review, indeed. What is the behaviour on very wet snow ? -- Herve Regad-Pellagru second-system effect: n. (sometimes, more euphoniously, `second-system syndrome') When one is designing the successor to a relatively small, elegant, and successful system, there is a tendency to become grandiose in one's success and design an elephantine feature-laden monstrosity. |
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http://www.1010tires.com/Michelin_Ar...pin_tires.html
Has lots of reviews about them. opinion looks VERY mixed. -- Steve "Herve Regad-Pellagru" > wrote in message ... > >>>>> "com" == com <pjjohnsen> writes: > > com> I am running the Michelin Artic Alpin 4x4 on my 2001 > com> Pathfinder SE (3.5L w/ 5 speed). Here is my review after one > com> full winter: Good tire in dry (quiet - much more so than the > com> stock Toyo's). They do walk a little in pitted out highway > com> situations and over metal grated bridges. This is expected > com> with all the siping in the tire. Let's face it you don't buy > com> a 4x4 to be a racer, however when pushed hard around turns > com> this tire feels solid. Good tire in the rain - we get plenty > com> of it out here and lately I drive this car more in the rain > com> (semi-retired from year round biking to work, hope to come > com> out of retirement next year :-) ). Additionally, I was > com> looking for a tire that had good tread wear and review > com> pointed this way (check out tirerack.com for a bunch of > com> reviews). Great tire in snow, we get plenty of it on > com> Mt. Hood (not so far this year) and central OR. We also get > com> a lot of variable conditions from tons of near freezing wet > com> to black ice. This tire inspires confidence. Running my > com> Toyos for the first two winters, I couldn't wait to get into > com> 4x4 mode and had a couple of scary 50 mph slips on black ice. > com> None of that with the artic alpin. I almost never have the > com> abs kick in either, again not the case with the stock Toyo's > com> (which is like comparing apples to oranges, but the only 2 > com> tires I have ever had on this SUV). Driving style Generally > com> I drive pretty fast but always with large stopping distances. > com> I would recommend this tire as an excellent winter tire. I > com> have had Blizzaks on a Volvo and would attest to the fact > com> that they wear out too quickly. Not sure the longevity of the > com> Artic Alpin 4x4 as of yet. Thinking about getting a set of > com> winter Michelins for a BMW 525i. The only other winter tire > com> that I have heard great reviews on is the Nokian Hakka..., > com> volvo purests in Vermont would run nothing but on their 240 > com> wagons, that is another story (go MRG!). > > Hi, > > Interesting review, indeed. > > What is the behaviour on very wet snow ? > > -- > > Herve Regad-Pellagru > > second-system effect: n. (sometimes, more euphoniously, `second-system > syndrome') When one is designing the successor to a relatively small, > elegant, and successful system, there is a tendency to become > grandiose in one's success and design an elephantine feature-laden > monstrosity. -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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Previous Link pointed to the passenger tire version, which
has since gone through a revision (now called PA2). Here is the tire that I described in my review: http://www.1010tires.com/Michelin_4x4_Alpin_tires.html another link with a mix of reviews (some are the passenger car version reviewed in the wrong place): http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...ommentStatus=P Awesome in wet snow, too. On a variety of cars, I have had great results with Michelins. Yeah, they cost more but (in my opinion) worth it. Currently running Conti Extreme Contacts on my BMW 525i (couldn't beat the price at tirerack for 225/55R16's), tires are too new to say much about them, plus that is for a different (non-truck) forum. Looks as if Michelin has changed name/style a little: Latitude X-Ice (don't see the artic alpin 4x4 offered on tirerack.com any longer). Planning on putting LTX M/S on the Pathfinder to replace the stock Toyo bologna skins. Steve W. wrote: > http://www.1010tires.com/Michelin_Ar...pin_tires.html > > Has lots of reviews about them. opinion looks VERY mixed. > > -- > Steve > > "Herve Regad-Pellagru" > wrote in message > ... > > > >>>>> "com" == com <pjjohnsen> writes: > > > > com> I am running the Michelin Artic Alpin 4x4 on my 2001 > > com> Pathfinder SE (3.5L w/ 5 speed). Here is my review after one > > com> full winter: Good tire in dry (quiet - much more so than the > > com> stock Toyo's). They do walk a little in pitted out highway > > com> situations and over metal grated bridges. This is expected > > com> with all the siping in the tire. Let's face it you don't buy > > com> a 4x4 to be a racer, however when pushed hard around turns > > com> this tire feels solid. Good tire in the rain - we get plenty > > com> of it out here and lately I drive this car more in the rain > > com> (semi-retired from year round biking to work, hope to come > > com> out of retirement next year :-) ). Additionally, I was > > com> looking for a tire that had good tread wear and review > > com> pointed this way (check out tirerack.com for a bunch of > > com> reviews). Great tire in snow, we get plenty of it on > > com> Mt. Hood (not so far this year) and central OR. We also get > > com> a lot of variable conditions from tons of near freezing wet > > com> to black ice. This tire inspires confidence. Running my > > com> Toyos for the first two winters, I couldn't wait to get into > > com> 4x4 mode and had a couple of scary 50 mph slips on black ice. > > com> None of that with the artic alpin. I almost never have the > > com> abs kick in either, again not the case with the stock Toyo's > > com> (which is like comparing apples to oranges, but the only 2 > > com> tires I have ever had on this SUV). Driving style Generally > > com> I drive pretty fast but always with large stopping distances. > > com> I would recommend this tire as an excellent winter tire. I > > com> have had Blizzaks on a Volvo and would attest to the fact > > com> that they wear out too quickly. Not sure the longevity of the > > com> Artic Alpin 4x4 as of yet. Thinking about getting a set of > > com> winter Michelins for a BMW 525i. The only other winter tire > > com> that I have heard great reviews on is the Nokian Hakka..., > > com> volvo purests in Vermont would run nothing but on their 240 > > com> wagons, that is another story (go MRG!). > > > > Hi, > > > > Interesting review, indeed. > > > > What is the behaviour on very wet snow ? > > > > -- > > > > Herve Regad-Pellagru > > > > second-system effect: n. (sometimes, more euphoniously, `second-system > > syndrome') When one is designing the successor to a relatively small, > > elegant, and successful system, there is a tendency to become > > grandiose in one's success and design an elephantine feature-laden > > monstrosity. > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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