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Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote: >On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 09:25:04 -0600, >(Matthew Russotto) wrote: > >>>There's a fine line between intent and negligence. >> >>That's a pretty bright line. >> >>>If you SHOULD HAVE >>>been able to avoid a collision, but you were too incompetent to do so, >>>that's not much different than having actual intent. >> >>Mere incompetence isn't necessarily negligence > >I'll agree with that in general. However, given the risks to public >safety that are involved, isn't it one's duty to become competent >before getting behind the wheel? The only legal duty is to pass the driver's test. That establishes a (very) minimal level of comptence. >>it only becomes so if it results in you >>failing to accomplish a legal duty. > >Or a moral one. Not if you're talking about the legal term "negligence". |
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Robert F Merrill wrote:
> You're wrong. In order for a collision not to be an accident, you have to > intend to collide with them. A collision which no one intended to happen is > an accident, but someone can still be at fault. I'm glad _some_body on this group understands the English language. Saying it's "not an accident" is accusing one of the drivers of doing it deliberately. And everybody knows it. |
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Usual Suspect wrote: > Cory Dunkle wrote: > > > I hit the brakes hard, and then moved to the left, > > downshifting and passing him quickly. > > Word of advice: get an automatic. You are thinking about shifting a bit too > much, if you had to mention it in your post. Stickshifts are for those who > can handle them subconsciously. Oh fer cryin out loud, they're just telling a story. How would you write it, "I moved to the left, subconsiously downshifting..." |
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We're feeding a troll here, people. What the hell. Even a troll's gotta eat. |
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John David Galt wrote: > Robert F Merrill wrote: > > You're wrong. In order for a collision not to be an accident, you have to > > intend to collide with them. A collision which no one intended to happen is > > an accident, but someone can still be at fault. > > I'm glad _some_body on this group understands the English language. > Saying it's "not an accident" is accusing one of the drivers of doing it > deliberately. And everybody knows it. URANIDIOT. "Not an accident" simply means someone is to blame whether they crashed deliberately or not. If a driver is speeding and loses control on a curve and hits another car, that is NOT AN ACCIDENT. |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:49:30 -0800, John David Galt
> wrote: >Robert F Merrill wrote: >> You're wrong. In order for a collision not to be an accident, you have to >> intend to collide with them. A collision which no one intended to happen is >> an accident, but someone can still be at fault. > >I'm glad _some_body on this group understands the English language. >Saying it's "not an accident" is accusing one of the drivers of doing it >deliberately. And everybody knows it. Wrong. Look up "accident". Very few crashes are "accidents". Most are driver error of some type. Not necessarily *on purpose*, but driver error nonetheless. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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Big Bill > wrote: >On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:49:30 -0800, John David Galt > wrote: > >>Robert F Merrill wrote: >>> You're wrong. In order for a collision not to be an accident, you have to >>> intend to collide with them. A collision which no one intended to happen is >>> an accident, but someone can still be at fault. >> >>I'm glad _some_body on this group understands the English language. >>Saying it's "not an accident" is accusing one of the drivers of doing it >>deliberately. And everybody knows it. > >Wrong. Look up "accident". >Very few crashes are "accidents". Most are driver error of some type. >Not necessarily *on purpose*, but driver error nonetheless. From Merriam-Webster online Accident 1a: "an unforseen and unplanned event or circumstance" 1b: "lack of intention or necessity: CHANCE" 2a: "an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance" 2b: "an unexpected and medically important bodily event especially when injurious" 2c: "an unexpected happening causing loss or injury which is not due to any fault or misconduct on the part of the person injured but for which legal relief may be sought" 3: "a nonessential property or quality of an entity or circumstance" Your typical auto accident fits 1a, the more precise definition in 1b, and 2a. Many also fit 2c (since the injured party is not necessarily at fault) -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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In article >,
Big Bill > wrote: >On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:07:42 -0600, >(Matthew Russotto) wrote: >>In article >, >>Big Bill > wrote: >>> >>>Wrong. Look up "accident". >>>Very few crashes are "accidents". Most are driver error of some type. >>>Not necessarily *on purpose*, but driver error nonetheless. >> >>From Merriam-Webster online >>Accident 1a: "an unforseen and unplanned event or circumstance" >> 1b: "lack of intention or necessity: CHANCE" >> 2a: "an unfortunate event resulting especially from >> carelessness or ignorance" >> 2b: "an unexpected and medically important bodily event >> especially when injurious" >> 2c: "an unexpected happening causing loss or injury which is >> not due to any fault or misconduct on the part of the >> person injured but for which legal relief may be sought" >> 3: "a nonessential property or quality of an entity or >> circumstance" >> >>Your typical auto accident fits 1a, the more precise definition in 1b, >>and 2a. Many also fit 2c (since the injured party is not necessarily >>at fault) > >Observation says 1b doesn't describe many vehicle crashes. The more precise definition ("lack of intention or necessity")? Describes nearly all of them. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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