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He is a Scamsoil Snake oil salesman. Look at all the Time he has to Post!
He's like a Maytag salesman, Not doing any business! Sitting in his Trailer at the Mobile home park all day posting. Gotta Love that. P.S. I'm not racists. I believe all Trailer park residents are TT Amsoil Sales people! |
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Carl Keehn wrote:
> > wrote in message > ups.com... > > Now this is interesting. > > > > > > Carl Keehn wrote: > > > "fwd_moparasambuku" > wrote in message > > > lkaboutautos.com... > > > > > Whether you're out of here or not, you're blocked. > > > You come to the site, spamming and multiposting > > > and then start whining when some respected > > > posters don't roll over and play dead at your > > > claims. > > > > > > > Buh Buy > > > > > > Daniel J. Stern wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 wrote: > > > > > This is usenet. There's no such thing as "banning" > > > someone from an unmoderated group such as this one. > > > > > Grow a brain. > > > > > > > > I think Carl moderates a forum somewhere that is what > > they call a usenet portal and he can block posts there > > that still show up on Google Groups. > > > > No matter. Censorship sucks no matter what. I notice > > that many automotive forums link to this Google Groups > > thread. The thing is that lots of them are censored. > > Lots of them are only showing posts which make > > "MOPAR ATF only" nuts look good. Of course that means > > those forums have only a few posts from this thread. > > > > <giggle> > > > No censorship is involved at all. AS Godlike as I would > like to be, I have no influence over the internet, usenet > groups or what any other person does or does not read. > My only power is to ask my newsreader software to not > display postings from selected persons. Since you're > so concerned over the issue, my criteria for blocking > comes up when the poster wanders away from posting on the > topic and resorts to personal attacks on those who differ > with him. I never said you have any "influence over the internet", and you know it. I said *I think* you moderate a forum somewhere. I suppose I could have added the word may, but a reasonable person, could see I was not stating I knew such was the case. Your saying you had *blocked* fwd_mopabuku did make me wonder though, if you had BLOCKED him from appearing on an entire forum. I mean, usually the brats say something like this, when they bozo filter someone. "YOU ARE ON IGNORE BUDDY! Nya Nya Nya Nya NYAAAA", ad nauseum etc. By saying you blocked him you made me wonder though. That is why I did a Google WEB search on this thread. It was then I discovered that, YEP, this thread has indeed been censored in many automotive forums. Just as I said earlier. Just curious. Under the censorship criteria you operate by, have you also filtered Sternn, Pffeifer, Steve B and David, for repeatedly attacking others and ditorting their words? Have you considered bozo filtering your own posts? I noticed you blocked fwd_mopabuku. From what I can see though, he is only guilty of allowing guys like I just mentioned, to get him angry for reapeatedly baiting him. Do you bozo the idiots who go off topic, purposely distort my words, bait me, and falsely claim I sell Amsoil? I mean since as you confess, "AS Godlike as I would like to be", wouldn't being fair and even handed be more "Godlike"? Or is it just the power you enjoy? Please get this. Only a fool would try to sell Amsoil to DCX shills, or try to convince close minded idiots, to rethink their unreasoning prejudices. I know that is not what I came here for. I just know that this thread will be forever archived, and made available for search engines. I want consumers to know the truth about the DCX ATF scam. That's all. Don't forget to filter me out also. If you haven't already done so. So far you guys have helped the cause tremendously, by being so transparently duplicitous, hypocritical, and unfalteringly irrational. Thank you, all of you, so very very much. |
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David wrote:
> > > He is a Scamsoil Snake oil salesman. Look at all > the Time he has to Post! He's like a Maytag > salesman, Not doing any business! Sitting in his > Trailer at the Mobile home park all day posting. > >Gotta Love that. > > P.S. I'm not racists. I believe all Trailer park > residents are TT Amsoil Sales people! LOL I am a she not a he. Obviously you haven't even read my posts, and so you do not even know what you are talking about. I am not an Amsoil sales person. Maybe you are telling the truth, and you are not a racist. You are however clearly a bigot. Because obviously you have a penchant for making broad sweeping value judgments about others, based upon faulty stereotypes, regrading what areas people live in. How very Daimler of you. You are clearly a jerk who does not think before he speaks. I suppose it is fair to presume that you are not a DCX public relations officer. Then again, I suppose it really isn't, is it. ROTFL! OH GOD. That was a good one. Thanks! I have to get back to work now. Dig ya later discriminator! ROTFLH OHH GOD |
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> Now just watch these assholes accuse me > of selling Amsoil. > > I use it in my A604 and it is fine! In Maybe you're not an Amsoil salesman, but you're also not a Chrysler owner. At least not a knowledgeable one. No one who actually deals with them has called it an "A604" for more than 10 years. Its a 41TE or a 42LE. |
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Hi Matt,
I respect your caution about upgrading to a full synthetic ATF. God knows these trannys are very sensitive to fluid requirements, and everyone who has ever put Dexron Mercon in by mistake, or believed some idiot at a trans repair shop who said it was OK to put it in, "as long as a friction modifier like Lube-guard is added", immediately had TC shudder and slippage. Such would require an immediate full system flush, a new MOPAR filter (not a close but no cigar knockoff), and a complete refill with MOPAR ATF +3. All true. I know how you feel. The data. The data. Think about this though. How long were DCX's own TSB's on fluid (Trans OIL) for the A604 confusing and open to interpretation? I think their data is too often just profit driven bunkum. All I can tell you is this. I have had great results with full synthetic ATF in my A604. I knew right off I had done the right thing because it performs far better. It shifts way faster and firmer on WOT, like a properly installed shift kit would afford, and it shifts down perfectly too. Yet when driving "normal" with smooth light even acceleration, you can NOT feel it shift at all. I mean way waaaaay smoother than it did even when brand new. If the friction characteristics were not up to snuff, it wouldn't be able to do that, and you know it. It runs much cooler now too, both in stop and go traffic in hot weather, and when taking a beating on the highway. If the friction characteristics were off, it would heat up, even if I really was too stupid to sense if was slipping, or the shift timing was off. You know how these 4 speeds were designed to hang onto one gear while grabbing another, so they would have that "grocery getter smoothness", and how this means friction heat buildup. As you may know already. This is why a good shift kit can extend the life of these babies, IF DONE RIGHT. Yeah yeah yeah. I know. Most people can't install a shift kit right. Or they chose the wrong one and just wind up creating problems. But you know the idea behind getting one. Well now my A604 performs just as I told you above. I believe that this full synthetic enables the A604 to actually perform as it was intended to by the designers. In other words. I think they are a great design, and really the old ATF +3 was just not up to the job. Not really. You had to baby them to get a decent life span out of them, by avoiding WOT and driving conservatively. But for far too many people, over many years, [there is plenty of data on that!] driving conservatively and using only Mopar 7176 +3, Mopar filters and following their fluid & filter change schedule, did not get them the lifespan of the 3 speeds, and other car manufacturers transmissions. Thousands of complaints over the years by A604 owners has given it bad reputation. But it wasn't the design. It was the ATF. The fact that DCX is pushing their new semi synthetic +4, only proves they knew it too. The A604/41Te4 design is a marvel! It was ahead of it's time, IF you used Mopar 7176 +3, but not if you were using one of the full synthetics. Honestly Matt. Full synthetics like Redline C+ and Amsoil ATF have been around a lot longer than Mopar +4. Those who for years have been using these full synthetics in their's, with great results, have all along been denounced as liars trying to peddle snake oil though. It is a MYTH that only Mopar ATF should be used. True, Mopar +4 is better than their old +3, but it is only a semi synthetic. It is a far less robust than a 100% full synthetic. I use it in my A604, for the same reasons that I use Mobil 1 in my engine. I swear to you I don't sell the stuff Matt. In fact if I were you, I would go with the Redline C+, because they have a better reputation, and lots of race teams wont use anything else. I only have experience with Amsoil ATF though, and I do know from experience that it is great stuff. So personally I would buy Amsoil again. I trust Valvoline pretty much. I mean they do have a reputation to uphold, and there are liability issues, but they say they have a +4. I don't know if it is just a copy of Mopar's semi synthetic +4 or not though. I suggest you try one of the full synthetics. Or you can believe the myths. Like if you disconnect the air box on a Chrysler/MMC 3.0 and use a CAI instead, then your computer will burn up! People believed that myth for years. But experience, seat of the pants data not driven by profit, my own included, proves that to be untrue. It's the same with this ATF issue Matt. Steviepoo, Some of us still call the 41Te4 (not "41Te" as you said by the way) A604's out of habit, because we have been Chrysler owners a little longer. One more thing Stevie. You really can be a nasty bitchy little whiner. So I don't know if you are really a *man* or not. Balls *or* no balls. |
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