No Brakes

I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
1972 mustang coupe
Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
turned.
Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
thing.
No leaks anywhere.
I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk am
I missing something?

Did you adjust the brakes???


"bf81" > wrote in message
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>I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
> Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
> Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
> power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
> master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
> Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
> turned.
> Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
> thing.
> No leaks anywhere.
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
> am I missing something?
>

yea, adjusted forget to list that one
"Jim Warman" > wrote in message
news:CR5eg.29154$zn1.22102@clgrps13...
> Did you adjust the brakes???
>
>
> "bf81" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
>> 1972 mustang coupe
>> Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
>> Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum,
>> no power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled
>> the master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the
>> floor.
>> Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
>> turned.
>> Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same
>> exact thing.
>> No leaks anywhere.
>> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
>> am I missing something?
>>
>
>

In article >, bf81 wrote:

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Did you bleed the master cylinder ?

Are there any leaks in the lines/fittings ?

Bench bled master no leaks all lines and fittings are dry
"Brent P" > wrote in message
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> In article >, bf81 wrote:
>
> <garbled list deleted>
>
> Did you bleed the master cylinder ?
>
> Are there any leaks in the lines/fittings ?
>
>

Not implying anything, sure you are not sucking in air when the brake petal
is being released?
"bf81" > wrote in message
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> I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
> Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
> Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
> power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
> master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
> Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
> turned.
> Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
> thing.
> No leaks anywhere.
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
am
> I missing something?
>
>

What's the condition of your brake hoses?

"bf81" > wrote in message
. ..
>I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
> Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
> Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
> power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
> master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
> Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
> turned.
> Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
> thing.
> No leaks anywhere.
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk
> am I missing something?
>

Experience has taught me that a four wheel brake job without a power
bleeder is asking for problems. Either buy/rent/borrow a power bleeder
or tow to the nearest shop for bleeding. You'll never get the air out
otherwise.


bf81 wrote:
> I thought I knew how to replace brakes!
> 1972 mustang coupe
> Brakes were working not great, but they stopped the car.
> Replaced all wheel cylenders, masterbrake, shoes, drums (4 wheel drum, no
> power anything) and bled them. I get no air when bleeding, refilled the
> master 5 times (never letting it go dry!) and the pedal goes to the floor.
> Tires in the air, someone presses on the brake wheel stops but can be
> turned.
> Thought I got a bad master, returned it got a new (not rebuilt) same exact
> thing.
> No leaks anywhere.
> I've never done a four wheel drum brake system before, tons of drum\disk am
> I missing something?
>
>

I agree. I should be able to bleed them "the old fashond way" but I still
get mush. Maybe the laws of physics have changed?
I orderewd a power bleeder, I'll post what happens.
"elaich" > wrote in message ...
> Rick Olive > wrote in news:i7WdnelM89-
> :
>
>> Experience has taught me that a four wheel brake job without a power
>> bleeder is asking for problems. Either buy/rent/borrow a power bleeder
>> or tow to the nearest shop for bleeding. You'll never get the air out
>> otherwise.
>
> Jeez, how did they ever bleed 'em for 70 or 80 years before power bleeders
> were invented?
>
> Bleed furthest away in order to closest. Use a bleeder bottle and make
> sure
> there is no air in it before tightening the fitting. I've never had any
> problem.