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Pontiac Solstice for 20k?
Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than 20k.
$19,995.00 to be exact. http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Or, are they creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof sawed off? H. |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:08 GMT, "HardwareLust" >
wrote in newspMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09: > Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than > 20k. $19,995.00 to be exact. > > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ > > Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Or, are they > creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of > driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof > sawed off? curb weight: around 2900 lbs. It's no Miata. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Red > writes:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:08 GMT, "HardwareLust" > > wrote in newspMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09: > > > Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than > > 20k. $19,995.00 to be exact. > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ > > > > Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Or, are they > > creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of > > driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof > > sawed off? > > curb weight: around 2900 lbs. > It's no Miata. > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- The Sky is suppost to be under 25k (so $24,999) Since it's the same car with a different body the Solstice must be stripped. And ya, they're heavier. I'll wait for the car mag head to head tests. The Sky does look nice though. -- Scott Streeter http://www.wpi.edu/~ss/ |
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"Red" > wrote in message
... > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:08 GMT, "HardwareLust" > > wrote in newspMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09: > >> Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than >> 20k. $19,995.00 to be exact. >> >> http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ >> >> Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Or, are they >> creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of >> driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof >> sawed off? > > curb weight: around 2900 lbs. > It's no Miata. > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- its looks might appeal to somebody, but not me. it looks like the suv of roadsters. i don't see it as competition to the miata. check it out yourself... http://www.hotwheelsblog.com/index.php?p=24 |
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In article <opMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09>, "HardwareLust" > wrote:
>Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than 20k. >$19,995.00 to be exact. > >http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ > >Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Or, are they creating a >market for a real sports car, once they get tired of driving what looks to >me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof sawed off? It is absolutely competition for the Miata. Now a lot of Miata nuts deny this (hey, I own one too). But face it: it is a small, 4-cyl, inexpensive, 2 seat roadster highlighting performance (i.e, it isn't a Sebring). GM's Lutz was a big fan of english roadsters in the 60's and proposed that GM make one then. Now that he's in charge (vice-chairman), he pretty much pushed this through by force of will. They did an early press ride & drive in England and had some vintage Triumphs, MG's and (I think) Elans for comparison. GM has said they are targetting the Miata. Maybe the Miata is better, it will certainly have more Miata-ness. But there is only so big of a market for this kind of car, and GM by virtue of its size and access to all markets will take a good chunk of it with this car unless it flops. But by its looks, and by the mechanicals you can see, it appears to be pretty legit. Yes, it may be too heavy (I'm not convinced the std "2860 lb" number is accurate). As to the Cobalt slam, the Solstice is based on a new (Kappa) rwd platform. It has an all independent adjustable double-wishbone suspension and what looks like a mini-vette chassis. It does share the Cobalt coupe engine. The Cobalt is based on the fwd Delta platform. And the SS, as has the Opel Astra (also Delta) have been getting good reviews on their own. Time will tell. |
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Scott Streeter > wrote:
>Red > writes: > >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:08 GMT, "HardwareLust" > >> wrote in newspMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09: >> >> > Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than >> > 20k. $19,995.00 to be exact. >> > >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ >> > >> > Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? Probably. It has 18" wheels, and the Miata only 17". Probably lose at least 50% of the buyers upgrading from Honda Civics. Lord knows how big the tail pipe is. If it exceeds 5", there goes all of the rest. >> Or, are they >> > creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of >> > driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof >> > sawed off? Well, I know that the colleague driving this Australian knock off of the Miata (was it sold by GM?) did not buy any new convertibles. Just think what creative car problems an American manufacturer can come up when given a drop top, as well as the reduced stiffness it entails. >> curb weight: around 2900 lbs. >> It's no Miata. Let's wait for the next generation before making a judgment. >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- > >The Sky is suppost to be under 25k (so $24,999) Since it's the same >car with a different body the Solstice must be stripped. And ya, >they're heavier. I'll wait for the car mag head to head tests. The Sky >does look nice though. Which Sky? The Sky I saw was the limit. Leon -- Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .) http://www.dommelen.net/miata EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen) |
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"Leon van Dommelen" > wrote in message ... > Scott Streeter > wrote: > > >Red > writes: > > > >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:37:08 GMT, "HardwareLust" > > >> wrote in newspMQd.8563$uc.4764@trnddc09: > >> > >> > Autoblog reports the new Pontiac Solstice will sticker for less than > >> > 20k. $19,995.00 to be exact. > >> > > >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000767031942/ > >> > > >> > Could this be trouble for sales of the new Miata? > > Probably. It has 18" wheels, and the Miata only 17". Probably > lose at least 50% of the buyers upgrading from Honda Civics. > Lord knows how big the tail pipe is. If it exceeds 5", there > goes all of the rest. > > >> Or, are they > >> > creating a market for a real sports car, once they get tired of > >> > driving what looks to me like basically a Cobalt coupe with the roof > >> > sawed off? > > Well, I know that the colleague driving this Australian knock off > of the Miata (was it sold by GM?) did not buy any new convertibles. > Are you talking about the early 90s Mercury Capri? It lost every Miata comparison badly, but was always meant as a cruiser rather than sports car. It was a dog. -John |
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In article > , "Generic" > wrote:
>> Well, I know that the colleague driving this Australian knock off >> of the Miata (was it sold by GM?) did not buy any new convertibles. >> > >Are you talking about the early 90s Mercury Capri? It lost every Miata >comparison badly, but was always meant as a cruiser rather than sports car. > >It was a dog. And a Ford. |
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