Fiberglass shock absorbers ?

A colleague of mine just humiliated me in front of a few other
co-workers.
We were all discussing dream cars and I told them that one of the most
beautiful set of lines ever to grace a car was the c3 corvette design.
We started debating corvette vs German efficiency.Well to cut a long
story short the colleague in question said that corvettes were peices
of **** cars (except for the Z06 and the c2 stingray.) because they are
the playthings of rednecks and mexicans and that the shock absorbers
are made of fiberglass !!!!

Well I knew that the rear transverse spring is made of fiberglass.. but
I couldn't explain why....
what do I say ? and why do corvettes have fiberglass shock absorbers ?
Isn't that odd ?

"E_Tar" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>A colleague of mine just humiliated me in front of a few other
> co-workers.
> We were all discussing dream cars and I told them that one of the
> most
> beautiful set of lines ever to grace a car was the c3 corvette
> design.
> We started debating corvette vs German efficiency.Well to cut a long
> story short the colleague in question said that corvettes were
> peices
> of **** cars (except for the Z06 and the c2 stingray.) because they
> are
> the playthings of rednecks and mexicans and that the shock absorbers
> are made of fiberglass !!!!
>
> Well I knew that the rear transverse spring is made of fiberglass..
> but
> I couldn't explain why....
> what do I say ? and why do corvettes have fiberglass shock absorbers
> ?
> Isn't that odd ?
>
First off you're dealing with a monkey, and it's not a fiberglass
shock. Yes, it's a composite spring on the front and the back on the
C5 and C6. Look up the reasons for the composite spring, it will give
you more insight into why the Corvette has developed into the vehicle
it is today. Earlier Corvettes had metal coil and leaf springs. To
talk with a putdown artist you need to get some more information about
what you want someone else to believe. I'm sure you won't/can't change
his mind so if you want to beat your head against the wall, go ahead.
Your best defense to that kind of talk is to know your subject.

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Buy a Black Book and there are many more out there that will have a
wealth of information.

--
Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

talk about german efficiency? The Corvette has WAYYY more torque, more
HP, better handling, a low maint V-8 that will last longer and not
require $200 oil changes...and gets 30+ mpg highway.
It was a choice in 00 to buy a Carrera or Vette. Drove em both. The
difference in torque output was very noticeable. You can get fast
accel times with a 911 to try and keep up with a vette, but don't
expect the $4k clutch to last very long.
80,000 miles later, my 00 convertible has required tires, brake pads,
and battery. Still rattle free, and a fantastic car. And $15k less
that a Carrera coupe

The next time, let him know that his favored Porsche is the car of well-kept
mistresses. And the subject of great lawsuits.

Back in the late '70s, maybe early '80s, there was a lawsuit against Porsche
for being too ill-handling to be allowed on public roads. They almost quit
selling them here. Some drunk mistress got her six inch heels stuck under
the throttle and promptly splattered. The suit resulted in Porsche of
America heavily supporting high-speed training for Porsche buyers. They
offered weekends at various racing schools with the price of the car, began
supporting the PCA with its high speed drivers schools, and so on.

Corvettes do not have fiberglass shocks. However, it is a novel idea that
hasn't come into being yet.

They do have fiberglass springs since 1981. The 1981 with automatic
transmissions had a fiberglass spring on the rear. In 1982, there were only
automatics, so they all had them. In 1984, they used the transverse
fiberglass spring and front and rear and ever since.

The advantages to a fiberglass spring:
1. Lighter. The fiberglass spring weighed 8 pound vs. the 44 pound steel
spring.
2. Faster reaction. Being lighter, it reacts faster. Being a mono spring,
it reacts faster. So much that adding a fiberglass spring to an older
Corvette requires recalibrating the shocks to adjust.
3. No rust, so no squeak.

Corvettes are (were) pieces of junk. But that should just be more insulting
to the German engineering crowd considering how many times Corvettes have
beaten Porsche. To a great extent, it was an American Hot Rod. It wasn't a
finalized product off the line, but rather a car that formed the basis of
what the owner wanted to do - race, show, rally, whatever. And almost
anyone could climb in one and go fast.

The same isn't true of a Porsche. The real fast ones can be very unforgiving
to inexperienced high-speed drivers. The extremely forgiving and
well-handling ones were very down on power. The 944 was the exception. The
924 was possibly the best handling car outside of a formula car I have ever
driven. However, it had less real road power than a Vega of the same era.
I've never driven a 944 but what I know about it is that they took a 924,
added more rubber on the ground, and added a bunch of horsepower. That has
to be a winning combination.

The 928 was a joke. The Cd was better backward than forwards until the put a
rear spoiler on it. What that did was make the backward Cd greater, so then
it was better to go forward. It didn't make the forward less.


"E_Tar" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>A colleague of mine just humiliated me in front of a few other
> co-workers.
> We were all discussing dream cars and I told them that one of the most
> beautiful set of lines ever to grace a car was the c3 corvette design.
> We started debating corvette vs German efficiency.Well to cut a long
> story short the colleague in question said that corvettes were peices
> of **** cars (except for the Z06 and the c2 stingray.) because they are
> the playthings of rednecks and mexicans and that the shock absorbers
> are made of fiberglass !!!!
>
> Well I knew that the rear transverse spring is made of fiberglass.. but
> I couldn't explain why....
> what do I say ? and why do corvettes have fiberglass shock absorbers ?
> Isn't that odd ?
>

You could just do the short cutdown ...

"Boy are you stupid, everyone knows there is no such thing as fiberglass
shocks."

:-)


"E_Tar" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>A colleague of mine just humiliated me in front of a few other
> co-workers.
> We were all discussing dream cars and I told them that one of the most
> beautiful set of lines ever to grace a car was the c3 corvette design.
> We started debating corvette vs German efficiency.Well to cut a long
> story short the colleague in question said that corvettes were peices
> of **** cars (except for the Z06 and the c2 stingray.) because they are
> the playthings of rednecks and mexicans and that the shock absorbers
> are made of fiberglass !!!!
>
> Well I knew that the rear transverse spring is made of fiberglass.. but
> I couldn't explain why....
> what do I say ? and why do corvettes have fiberglass shock absorbers ?
> Isn't that odd ?
>

Last year my wife paid (without my knowledge) $300 for an oil change on her
Boxter. The service guy told her it was in the terms of her lease...

Last week a buddy of mine who has a Jetta VR6 received a $1400 estimate to
replace spark plugs, wires, and A (1) coil pack.

He also received a $1700 estimate to replace the catalyc converter. In other
words, it would cost him roughly $3100 to turn off the emmissions light so
he can take the emmissions test. Nice car.. (100,000 miles)

I wonder what I would do with my C5 if I was spending $3000 on it.. Ooh I
know.. more meat in the back and the A&A kit for my blower in the front.

-Stan

Oh--BTW the Mexicans in Baltimore drive old Subarus

"Tom in Missouri" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> You could just do the short cutdown ...
>
> "Boy are you stupid, everyone knows there is no such thing as fiberglass
> shocks."
>
> :-)
>
>
> "E_Tar" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>A colleague of mine just humiliated me in front of a few other
>> co-workers.
>> We were all discussing dream cars and I told them that one of the most
>> beautiful set of lines ever to grace a car was the c3 corvette design.
>> We started debating corvette vs German efficiency.Well to cut a long
>> story short the colleague in question said that corvettes were peices
>> of **** cars (except for the Z06 and the c2 stingray.) because they are
>> the playthings of rednecks and mexicans and that the shock absorbers
>> are made of fiberglass !!!!
>>
>> Well I knew that the rear transverse spring is made of fiberglass.. but
>> I couldn't explain why....
>> what do I say ? and why do corvettes have fiberglass shock absorbers ?
>> Isn't that odd ?
>>
>
>

Ummm I SUPERIOR '94 C4 has composite springs too!
Re-calibrate your Fract Chekker. hehehehehehe

Dad wrote:

>
>>
>>
>First off you're dealing with a monkey, and it's not a fiberglass
>shock. Yes, it's a composite spring on the front and the back on the
>C5 and C6. Look up the reasons for the composite spring, it will give
>you more insight into why the Corvette has developed into the vehicle
>it is today. Earlier Corvettes had metal coil and leaf springs. To
>talk with a putdown artist you need to get some more information about
>what you want someone else to believe. I'm sure you won't/can't change
>his mind so if you want to beat your head against the wall, go ahead.
>Your best defense to that kind of talk is to know your subject.
>
>www.idavette.net
>www.corvetteforum.net
>www.corvetteclubofamerica.org
>http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com
>
>Buy a Black Book and there are many more out there that will have a
>wealth of information.
>
>
>

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LOLOL
Gotta go with that one too!!
Seems your dealing with an Automotive Idiot.....
So expect whatever his favorite auto is to be vastly
superior "In His Head"!

Tom in Missouri wrote:

>You could just do the short cutdown ...
>
>"Boy are you stupid, everyone knows there is no such thing as fiberglass
>shocks."
>
>:-)
>
>

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Didn't say they didn't have composite springs, sometimes I forget that
the C4 is a Corvette and not a Ford transmission. All I said was the
C5 and the C6 have composite springs in the front and the back. Didn't
mention the C4, not a reason not to, nor a reason to mention it, just
wasn't important. Still isn't.

>"RicSeyler" > wrote in message
...
>Ummm I SUPERIOR '94 C4 has composite springs too!
>Re-calibrate your Fract Chekker. hehehehehehe

>>Dad wrote:


>>First off you're dealing with a monkey, and it's not a fiberglass
>>shock. Yes, it's a composite spring on the front and the back on the
>>C5 and C6.

LOLOLOL Nice Dodge :-)

Dad wrote:

>Didn't say they didn't have composite springs, sometimes I forget that
>the C4 is a Corvette and not a Ford transmission. All I said was the
>C5 and the C6 have composite springs in the front and the back. Didn't
>mention the C4, not a reason not to, nor a reason to mention it, just
>wasn't important. Still isn't.
>
>
>
>>"RicSeyler" > wrote in message
.. .
>>Ummm I SUPERIOR '94 C4 has composite springs too!
>>Re-calibrate your Fract Chekker. hehehehehehe
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>Dad wrote:
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>>>First off you're dealing with a monkey, and it's not a fiberglass
>>>shock. Yes, it's a composite spring on the front and the back on the
>>>C5 and C6.
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>

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