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Old March 2nd 05, 10:49 PM
larry moe 'n curly
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Default Thing to drain oil filter so it won't spill?

Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
sucks out the oil?

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Old March 2nd 05, 11:28 PM
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larry moe 'n curly wrote:

> Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
> over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
> sucks out the oil?
>


If there isn't, there should be. Simply punching a hole in the filter
of my 944 does nothing, there's apparently a good anti-drainback valve
on it. In addition, when you remove the filter, all the oil goes on the
power steering pump and the passenger side sway bar bushing

Personally, I wish more mfgrs. used replaceable-element filters like the
old Fram canister units; those are easy to service neatly (just put a
shop rag, pie plate, whatever underneath the element after lifting it
out. If you're real anal you can drain the housing with a suction gun
to wipe out the sludge.) AFAIK BMW is the only major mfgr. still using
them however.

nate

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Old March 3rd 05, 03:08 AM
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When I was young enough to do it - I put a gallon zip-lok bag around it.

On 2 Mar 2005 14:49:05 -0800, "larry moe 'n curly" > wrote:

>Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
>over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
>sucks out the oil?


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Old March 3rd 05, 03:35 AM
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"larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
> over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
> sucks out the oil?
>

The lid from an old fullsize trashcan--plastic is good--turned upside
down works good to catch it.


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Old March 3rd 05, 04:00 PM
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When you buy your new oil filter, it probably comes home from the store in a
plastic bag - wrap the bag around the filter after you have broken it loose
and let the filter drop down inside. Wroks for me, anyway.

Brian
"larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
> over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
> sucks out the oil?
>



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Old March 3rd 05, 04:07 PM
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Brian wrote:
> When you buy your new oil filter, it probably comes home from the

store in a
> plastic bag - wrap the bag around the filter after you have broken it

loose
> and let the filter drop down inside. Wroks for me, anyway.
>
> Brian
> "larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill

all
> > over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
> > sucks out the oil?
> >


I'm guessing most of the respondants to this thread are driving cars
that have conventionally-mounted spin-on oil filters, i.e. threads-up
or nearly so, like a SBC. It's not nearly so easy on a vehicle with
the filter mounted the other way... look at a Porsche 944 or a
slant-six MoPar for an example of an engine where it's near impossible
to change the filter without having to mop up spilled oil afterwards.
I know Ferraris also had the oil filters mounted "upside down" on top
of the engine.

nate

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Old March 3rd 05, 05:57 PM
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N8N wrote:
>
> Brian wrote:
> > When you buy your new oil filter, it probably comes home from the

> store in a
> > plastic bag - wrap the bag around the filter after you have broken it

> loose
> > and let the filter drop down inside. Wroks for me, anyway.
> >
> > Brian
> > "larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill

> all
> > > over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
> > > sucks out the oil?
> > >

>
> I'm guessing most of the respondants to this thread are driving cars
> that have conventionally-mounted spin-on oil filters, i.e. threads-up
> or nearly so, like a SBC. It's not nearly so easy on a vehicle with
> the filter mounted the other way... look at a Porsche 944 or a
> slant-six MoPar for an example of an engine where it's near impossible
> to change the filter without having to mop up spilled oil afterwards.
> I know Ferraris also had the oil filters mounted "upside down" on top
> of the engine.
>
> nate


My Chev 3500 which would normally have a right-side-up vertically
mounted filter has a really stupid right angle adapter on it to allow it
to clear the front driveshaft. I'd put a remote adapter on it if I could
find a place to mount the remote

I usually just wrap a piece of AL foil around the driveshaft and the few
other things the filter drips on. It also sucks since you can't pre-fill
the filter with oil either like you can on a vertical one.

Pete C.
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Old March 4th 05, 12:20 AM
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N8N wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > When you buy your new oil filter, it probably comes home from the

> store in a
> > plastic bag - wrap the bag around the filter after you have broken

it
> loose
> > and let the filter drop down inside. Wroks for me, anyway.
> >
> > Brian
> > "larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill

> all
> > > over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and

then
> > > sucks out the oil?
> > >

>
> I'm guessing most of the respondants to this thread are driving cars
> that have conventionally-mounted spin-on oil filters, i.e. threads-up
> or nearly so, like a SBC. It's not nearly so easy on a vehicle with
> the filter mounted the other way... look at a Porsche 944 or a
> slant-six MoPar for an example of an engine where it's near

impossible
> to change the filter without having to mop up spilled oil afterwards.
> I know Ferraris also had the oil filters mounted "upside down" on top
> of the engine.


Depends on the car. The filter on my '95 Integra GS-R was mounted
directly above the left drive axle. I'd use aluminum foil as a
funnel to guide the flow over the axle. A '96 Buick Regal has
the filter directly over a right front suspension arm, and the oil
supposedly flows through a hole. In reality, a wide funnel is needed
to minimize the mess. A 2001 Toyota Camry V6 filter is real easy
to reach from above. The problem is that the oil leaving the filter
flows down an engine mount and along an exhaust pipe (what an amazing
feat of engineering). My 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX doesn't leave much
of a mess once the underspoiler is removed. However - there's limited
clearance with the exhaust headers snaking around three sides of the
filter mount, and I haven't found any source for a cap wrench to fit
the 15 flute 67mm OEM filter. Claw wrenches don't fit. I use a
Lisle low-profile band wrench designed for 65mm (or smaller) filters.
It doesn't go on squarely, and it's a struggle to get it to tighten.

The least messy filter I've ever seen is on a mid-90's Saab 900. I
looked under one at a dealer. It's within easy reach of the front,
mounted sideways, and with tons of clearance. There is absolutely
nothing between the filter and the ground, so it would drain straight
down into a pan.

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Old March 4th 05, 02:24 AM
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:28:33 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote:

>larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
>> Is there something that can drain an oil filter so it won't spill all
>> over when it's removed, like a device that punches a hole and then
>> sucks out the oil?
>>

>
>If there isn't, there should be. Simply punching a hole in the filter
>of my 944 does nothing, there's apparently a good anti-drainback valve
>on it. In addition, when you remove the filter, all the oil goes on the
>power steering pump and the passenger side sway bar bushing


Stick an air blow gun nozzle against that hole you punched in your filter and
open the valve for about 20 seconds. It will blow the oil in the filter and the
oil galleys out the bearings and into the pan. Then remove the almost empty
filter.

Jim
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Old March 4th 05, 03:54 AM
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N8N wrote:
> I'm guessing most of the respondants to this thread are driving cars
> that have conventionally-mounted spin-on oil filters, i.e. threads-up
> or nearly so, like a SBC. It's not nearly so easy on a vehicle with
> the filter mounted the other way... look at a Porsche 944 or a
> slant-six MoPar for an example of an engine where it's near

impossible
> to change the filter without having to mop up spilled oil afterwards.
> I know Ferraris also had the oil filters mounted "upside down" on top
> of the engine.
>
> nate


Yeah, the Mazda rotaries have the filter upside down on top of the
engine. Of course, that's not the only wierd thing about those engines,
but it's a always a mess changing the filter.

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