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> GM had a pair of V8 FWD vehicles back in the 1970's (Cadillac Elderado and > Oldsmobile Toranado). So it can be done. Perhaps not with the current > iteration of the Pacifica. But future redesigned models perhaps. GM has had front-drive V8s around for decades, and still does have a few although Cadillac is now going more and more to rear-drive. All the Cadillacs except the Fleetwood were FWD v8s since about 1986 until just the last couple of years, first with the 4.5L v8, then the 4.9, and finally with the Northstar. The old Toronado and Eldorado of the 60s and 70s (and dont forget certain years of the Buick Riviera too) were more like the Chrysler LH cars in that they were front-drive but with a longitudinally-mounted engine. The later (86-recent) Cadillacs were transverse engines like the Pacifica- but they were either pushrod wedge-head engines (4.5 and 4.9) or overhead cam (Northstar), not a Hemi-head. And the cars were designed for a v8, unlike the Chrysler minivan chassis (Pacifica) which is a tight fit just for the 3.5L v6. |
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Technically, the 3.5HO *is* a 'hemi' engine.
Over on allpar some people are saying that DCX is planning to stroke the 3.5 One More Time before replacing it. >From the after-market, we know that the 3.5 is easily capable of 300+ HP with a good torque curve. The UltraDrive tranny is another question though. Without a significant uprating of the clutches and solenoid body I'd le leary of putting any more stress on one than the Pacifica already represents. NJ Vike wrote: > Doesn't the 300C with the Hemi going to be offered with a Hemi? Why can't > they do the same with the Pacifica? > > Thanks > > -- > "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go > from thirty-third to Buffalo. > From Broadway bright the tubes run right > Into the Road of Anthracite" > Erie - Lackawanna > > > > "CopperTop" > wrote in message > et... > > The base Pacifica is a FWD with an AWD option. Until the Pacifica goes to > > a rear drive, I doubt the hemi will be offered. > > > > ================== > > > > "NJ Vike" > wrote in message > > nk.net... > >> Looks like I made a mistake here. I was replying to the wrong thread. > >> > >> My question here is does anyone think that Chrysler will put the Hemi in > >> the Pacifica? There seems to be complaints about the Pacifica having > >> issue with power. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> -- > >> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go > >> from thirty-third to Buffalo. > >> From Broadway bright the tubes run right > >> Into the Road of Anthracite" > >> Erie - Lackawanna > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > |
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phreak wrote:
> Technically, the 3.5HO *is* a 'hemi' engine. Nope, its a pent-roof head, not a Hemi. > > Over on allpar some people are saying that DCX is planning to stroke > the 3.5 One More Time before replacing it. Stroke or bore? The 3.5 is (sorta) a bored 3.3. Same stroke, but lots of other differences (deep skirt block like the B/RB v8 family, cross-bolted main caps like the 426 Hemi, forged crank, slipper pistons) and that was even before they re-cast it in aluminum. > >>From the after-market, we know that the 3.5 is easily capable of 300+ > HP with a good torque curve. The UltraDrive tranny is another question > though. Without a significant uprating of the clutches and solenoid > body I'd le leary of putting any more stress on one than the Pacifica > already represents. > I don't know what version of the tranny the Pacifica has. The 42LE type that was in the 300M/Concorde/Intrepid is quite a lot stronger than the 41TE that the minvans had, but I'm betting that the PAcifica has a 41TE type since its still a transverse engine (TE instead of LE). I also don't know the designation for the rear-drive version of the 42LE that is used behind the 3.5 in the Magnum and 300, but its stronger still and could conceivably be beefed to handle a Hemi. But why bother? the Ram trucks already have a 42LE-cousin rear-drive transmission that is quite capable of handling a Hemi. I never understood why Chrysler went with the Daimler 5-speed over-complicated monstrosity behind the Hemi in the 300 and Magnum when the truck transmission is undoubtedly much stronger and more reliable. |
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I wasn't aware of that the Jeep had the Hemi. I will look at it.
Thanks -- "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go from thirty-third to Buffalo. From Broadway bright the tubes run right Into the Road of Anthracite" Erie - Lackawanna "James C. Reeves" > wrote in message ... > > "CopperTop" > wrote in message > k.net... >> The Pacifica is actually built on the Dodge Caravan/Chrysler Town & >> Country (minivan) chassis/framework/whatever with front wheel drive and >> an all wheel drive option. >> >> The 300/Magnum/Charger is a different "chassis" which is rear wheel drive >> with an all wheel drive option. The are two completely different all >> wheel drive set ups. The 300C is a hemi. The other 300's without the C >> designation are V6 engines. All new 300's are rear wheel drive as are >> the new Magnums and the upcoming Charger. >> >> To beef up the transaxle of the front drive vehicles to handle the power >> and torque of the hemi would be terribl expensive and something Chrysler >> probably won't do. Plus the added weight and size of the hemi would be >> just too much for a front driver. >> > > GM had a pair of V8 FWD vehicles back in the 1970's (Cadillac Elderado > and Oldsmobile Toranado). So it can be done. Perhaps not with the > current iteration of the Pacifica. But future redesigned models perhaps. > > If looking for a Chrysler V8 HEMI SUV, why not look at the Grand Cherokee > or Durango? > |
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