Cylinder heads

I'm building my first performance VW engine, a 1776, new case, cast
69mm flyweighted balanced crank, reconditioned VW rods, Engle 110 cam,
I won't bore you with the rest.
My real question is that I ordered CB 044 heads 40mm x 35.5mm ss
valves w/ single springs, and recieved Empi part #98-1361-B, they
appear to be of the same specs, did I get a good alternative or should
I return them?
Also what do I use for marking compound in which to leave an imprint
so I can port match the manifolds?
Thanks for any help.

sounds like Bait and Switch to me

John
Aircooled.Net Inc.

"Volksrod70" > wrote in message
m...
> I'm building my first performance VW engine, a 1776, new case, cast
> 69mm flyweighted balanced crank, reconditioned VW rods, Engle 110 cam,
> I won't bore you with the rest.
> My real question is that I ordered CB 044 heads 40mm x 35.5mm ss
> valves w/ single springs, and recieved Empi part #98-1361-B, they
> appear to be of the same specs, did I get a good alternative or should
> I return them?
> Also what do I use for marking compound in which to leave an imprint
> so I can port match the manifolds?
> Thanks for any help.

Did you order them from CB directly? If so, they would have sent you thier 044
heads, *NOT* EMPI ones...there is a difference.

"John Connolly" > wrote in message >...
> sounds like Bait and Switch to me
>
> John
> Aircooled.Net Inc.
>
> "Volksrod70" > wrote in message
> m...
> > I'm building my first performance VW engine, a 1776, new case, cast
> > 69mm flyweighted balanced crank, reconditioned VW rods, Engle 110 cam,
> > I won't bore you with the rest.
> > My real question is that I ordered CB 044 heads 40mm x 35.5mm ss
> > valves w/ single springs, and recieved Empi part #98-1361-B, they
> > appear to be of the same specs, did I get a good alternative or should
> > I return them?
> > Also what do I use for marking compound in which to leave an imprint
> > so I can port match the manifolds?
> > Thanks for any help.

I already thought of the old "Bait & Switch" gig, but I don't have any
real proof of this head being less than the 044.
Anyone know the real facts??

an "044 head" will have "044" cast into the head in the valvecover area
under the valves and springs. If it does not say "044" it is not an 044
casting head, which is what you say they said it was. I'd have an issue with
that if I was in your shoes.

now if they said it was a "big valve head" but did not specify the casting,
then they appear to have done nothing wrong. You know what they said or not,
so the ball is in your court.

John
Aircooled.Net Inc.

> I already thought of the old "Bait & Switch" gig, but I don't have any
> real proof of this head being less than the 044.
> Anyone know the real facts??

>From: volksrod70

>
>I already thought of the old "Bait & Switch" gig, but I don't have any
>real proof of this head being less than the 044.
>Anyone know the real facts??
>
>

"less" than or equal to does not matter...if you ordered 044's and got
something else you seem to be the victim of the bait and switch....as far as
the performance of the head vs. the 044 i can't comment...
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Chris Perdue
"I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in
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Jim Mais
Feb. 2004

(Kaferdave) wrote in message >...
> Did you order them from CB directly? If so, they would have sent you thier 044
> heads, *NOT* EMPI ones...there is a difference.
CB performance took my order and then when I called a week later
looking for my order they told me it would be at least three weeks to
get them out of customs, as they where out of stock, so I odered them
from a shop in California.
Now I ordered the $200.00 CB 044's, not the high end ones, and looking
up the Empi part number it lists for about $214.00, not that I think
price equels quality though it does seem to put them both in the same
class.
So given that information, do I really have a performance or quality
issue?

so I odered them
from a shop in California.

So you did not, in fact, order them from CB Performance, in Farmersville, CA.
I agree with John, if the "shop in California" said they were 044 heads, and
what was sent to you did not have 044 embossed in the rocker arm box area
underneath where the rocker arms and shafts reside, then what they said they
had, was not what you got.

On 23 Oct 2004 22:09:14 -0700, Volksrod70 > wrote:

> "John Connolly" > wrote in message
> >...
>> sounds like Bait and Switch to me
>>
>> John
>> Aircooled.Net Inc.
>>
>> "Volksrod70" > wrote in message
>> m...
>> > I'm building my first performance VW engine, a 1776, new case, cast
>> > 69mm flyweighted balanced crank, reconditioned VW rods, Engle 110 cam,
>> > I won't bore you with the rest.
>> > My real question is that I ordered CB 044 heads 40mm x 35.5mm ss
>> > valves w/ single springs, and recieved Empi part #98-1361-B, they
>> > appear to be of the same specs, did I get a good alternative or should
>> > I return them?
>> > Also what do I use for marking compound in which to leave an imprint
>> > so I can port match the manifolds?
>> > Thanks for any help.
>
> I already thought of the old "Bait & Switch" gig, but I don't have any
> real proof of this head being less than the 044.
> Anyone know the real facts??

A real CB 044 looks like this:

http://66.225.214.60/ghia/MVC-429F.JPG

Max
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http:/www.MaxWelton.net/

After all, it was a phone order so I don't have proof of who said
what.
So I figure why complain if this is an equel cylinder head, and that's
the real question I have for all of you.