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C.H. > wrote: >Nonsense. Read the papers. Most of the drunk drivers who get checked after >a crash are somewhere between .05% and 0.1% Most non-alcoholics are not >even able to walk to their car beyond 1.5%. Obviously, we haven't been reading the same papers. |
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Brent P > wrote: > >However MADD and other orgs are still pushing a neo-prohibitionist >agenda. The USA is simply filled with control freaks. Instead of being >open, the method of recent decades has been incrementalism. The US isn't the ONLY place filled with control freaks, though. The Germans, autobahns notwithstanding, have a national reputation for it. Even the Italians have their control freaks, as the recent smoking ban demonstrates. |
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In article >,
Brent P > wrote: > >However MADD and other orgs are still pushing a neo-prohibitionist >agenda. The USA is simply filled with control freaks. Instead of being >open, the method of recent decades has been incrementalism. The US isn't the ONLY place filled with control freaks, though. The Germans, autobahns notwithstanding, have a national reputation for it. Even the Italians have their control freaks, as the recent smoking ban demonstrates. |
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C.H. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:48:49 -0500, Max wrote: > > Where did you get that number from? About every study about alcohol and > driving I read mentioned that non-alcoholic drivers already are affected > from .03%. Do you have any links to substantiate this claim? > > And the drivers that cause the accidents all have BAC's around .16 to > > .25, and if you are at .25 you are really hammered and you'll know it. > > Nonsense. Read the papers. Most of the drunk drivers who get checked after > a crash are somewhere between .05% and 0.1% What papers? Newspapers? I would prefer to get real, hard data. > Most non-alcoholics are not > even able to walk to their car beyond 1.5%. I should think not. 0.50% BAC would put most all humans in an alcohol coma, at the very least. 1.5% would be very difficult to achieve, outside of some embalming process. HAND, E.P. |
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C.H. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:48:49 -0500, Max wrote: > > Where did you get that number from? About every study about alcohol and > driving I read mentioned that non-alcoholic drivers already are affected > from .03%. Do you have any links to substantiate this claim? > > And the drivers that cause the accidents all have BAC's around .16 to > > .25, and if you are at .25 you are really hammered and you'll know it. > > Nonsense. Read the papers. Most of the drunk drivers who get checked after > a crash are somewhere between .05% and 0.1% What papers? Newspapers? I would prefer to get real, hard data. > Most non-alcoholics are not > even able to walk to their car beyond 1.5%. I should think not. 0.50% BAC would put most all humans in an alcohol coma, at the very least. 1.5% would be very difficult to achieve, outside of some embalming process. HAND, E.P. |
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>>>I agree. Granted that this requires judgment on the part of the
police officer, most cop cars these days have video cameras, & I've seen them show a jury just how badly the guy was driving before the officer made the decision to pull him over. That's how it should be done .. >>>So you think DUI should be allowed unless the cop can prove the driver is impaired. Do you also think heroin and cocaine possesion should be allowed unless the cops can prove the user is a threat to society? Good ideas. Now you're getting somewhere. |
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>>>I agree. Granted that this requires judgment on the part of the
police officer, most cop cars these days have video cameras, & I've seen them show a jury just how badly the guy was driving before the officer made the decision to pull him over. That's how it should be done .. >>>So you think DUI should be allowed unless the cop can prove the driver is impaired. Do you also think heroin and cocaine possesion should be allowed unless the cops can prove the user is a threat to society? Good ideas. Now you're getting somewhere. |
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